Triumph outsells Kawasaki in the UK

Look you, just take your facts and **** off, will you?

 

Go on, then.

Mine are Chile (er, obviously), France and Italy.

 

The biggest surprise is that it took a decade to suss the fuckers out
and get rid of them. I suppose the only avenue left open to the cunts
is to become community pigs and nick people for taking photos of
underground stations.

 

That's all very well and good for you to say with your two bike/one
car lifestyle. Think of all the bullshitters that have been sussed out
and are now looking for new opportunities.

 

Peasant

 

But you're not allowed to ride one of them because it's a bad bastard.

 

I think you'll find it is, financially and in terms of what it has at
its disposal when it comes to ways out of said shit as things stand.

And is borrowing how much money at present
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try and keep itself afloat?

'The bigger they are, the harder they fall'.

Have you even comprehended what the implications for this country and
those who live in it are financially should it find its credit rating
downgraded in the near future as mooted as a strong possibility of
late?

All of the above is **** all to do with 'hand wringing' as you put it,
and everything to do with opening ones eyes to the reality of the
situation the country currently finds itself in, in terms of how
precarious a position its in financially etc.

As for it being the sixth largest world economy... we were the fourth
largest in 2003 - we'd already slipped two places by 2008, before the
shit really hit the fan.

Given the fallout over the last year or so and the fact it was widely
reported not so long ago that countries such as Germany and France
were starting to buck the recession whereas we were still firmly
entrenched in the mire, it'll be interesting, (if not a little
depressing), to see where it slots into the table over the next couple
of years.

 

On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:38:36 -0800 (PST), JackH

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I'm sure I've read somewhere that the figures due for release today
are expected to show we're now 'officially' out of the recession.

 

There is an election on the way.
Yea right.

 

I remember the news from the time: same optimism, we're coming out of
recession, cut short when the actual figures were released. Oops.

Of course, the best thing about the figures being due out, is that
Radio 5 Live played "Back In Black" this morning.

 

It's official. 0.1% growth.

 

As CT has muttered, only a few months ago there were soundbites in the
press stating 'we're out of recession', when the figures subsequently
showed otherwise.

Whatever, tis time the Government came up with something of more
substance when it comes to how we're going to balance our books better
in future, rather than prolonging the inevitable as things stand by
way of borrowing obscene amounts of money on the apparent basis that
'Don't worry, something will turn up - things HAVE to get better'.

To summarise, becoming more and more reliant and at the mercy of other
countries for essential resources such as gas whilst, in the face of a
big collapse within sectors you were previously relying on for income,
(as in the financial one), having little more to offer in exchange
than a few bullets, (however way you want to look at that), is not a
particularly clever recipe for the longer term financial prospects of
the country, not least given our propensity to import something rather
than make it ourselves.

 

Oh, well, that's practically an armful.

 

Don't you find all that sand makes breathing a tad restrictive?

Well... you are getting on a bit.

I'm not being miserable - I'm being realistic.

Miserable would be to just accept 'that's the way it is', and sit
there accepting 'that's just the way it is... bothered'.

What I'm doing is identifying and stating what the problem is, and why
things need to change fairly drastically if we're to have any real
hope of 'stopping the rot'.

You can ignore it if you like, and 'worry about it when the time
comes', but I'd personally rather question it now in the hope that if
enough willing to get stuck in do so, 'when the times comes' doesn't
come after all.

 

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Please just give it a rest.

It's clear you don't understand the subject in any depth (as to be blunt
do few people; myself included.)

Yes, we're in a difficult position at the moment. Yes it's clear we're
running a large deficit. No, it's not as simple as you paint it. No,
we're not all going to hell in a handcart.

 

We're going to face a national shortage of sand at this rate...

 

Do you honestly think you're the only one devoting any thought to
this???

 

FFS!

"What did you do in the great-recession at the beginning of the century
Grandad?"

"I posted mis-informed thoughts, ideas, and tabloid quotes to usenet"

 

One: I'm not whinging - if you can't tell the difference between a
whinge and outlining a state of play, that's your problem.

Two: You have no idea what I am doing other than what I volunteer in
here.

Actually, the first four words of that sentence were all that were
needed, really.

Three: What are *you* doing about it other than sitting on your hands
and staring blankly into the abyss in the style of 'Maaaattt
Daaaamon'?

 

Not at all.

What are your thoughts on it all?