Tubes.

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by stephen.packer, Sep 12, 2010.

  1. So... I'm about to change the tyres on the XT for some knobblies. I
    really, really, don't want to get punctures and these are tubed tyres.

    Now, Michelin does an inner tube with a wall thickness of 4mm and I'm
    thinking about changing to these to minimise the chance of a puncture.

    I've read in some places (contradicted by information in other places)
    that these are off-road only but I can't see any reason why they
    wouldn't work on the road *unless* they have a problem with heat
    dissipation?

    Anyone know anything on these? Safe to use or likely to end in a (post
    fitting...) puncture?
     
    stephen.packer, Sep 12, 2010
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    crn Guest

    If something sharp makes it through the tyre an extra millimeter of
    tube is going to make sod all difference. Knobblies implies off road use
    so low-ish pressures, a thick tube is not going to stretch so easily so
    you would need to make sure you have the exactly correct size for the
    tyre.

    Sounds like snake oil to me.
     
    crn, Sep 12, 2010
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  3. Thank you for your kind contribution.

    Anyone with some relevant experience/knowledge got some input?
     
    stephen.packer, Sep 12, 2010
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    Ben Guest

    Dunno about those tubes, but given you're using tubes how about some
    sort of puncture proofing slime? Seem to work well enough for
    mountain bikers, and given you're putting it in a tube, you don't need
    to worry about making a mess of the rims.
     
    Ben, Sep 12, 2010
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  5. I wondered if that freezes since these tyres are likely to get pretty
    cold.

    Have used that in tubeless tyres and it's been pretty good (well, good
    in that I've never noticed a puncture in well over 100k miles of using
    it).
     
    stephen.packer, Sep 12, 2010
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  6. Well, a mousse isn't any use, ignoring the price. They aren't rated for
    high miles and fall apart with time. Good for off road, but not on
    road. I have a little, recent, experience of these.

    Problem is I'm talking about temperatures as low as -20... and in this
    case I'm worried about having 500g of slime in a lump at the bottom of
    the wheel. It would take a long time to warm up with the road being
    cold. I'm surprised I can't find a temperature rating for it. Surely
    they should be stating the conditions under which their product can be
    used???
     
    stephen.packer, Sep 12, 2010
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  7. stephen.packer

    Catman Guest

    wrote:

    I was under the impression that Slime and similar pretty much smeared
    themselves all over the tyre and stuck there (evenly distributed) after
    first application. Otherwise it would pool at the bottom every time the
    bike stopped, and throw the balance out until re-distributed.

    Given that the instructions explain to go and ride and distribute it
    after 'installation' but make no further mention of it, this seems, at
    least IMHO, unlikely.

    YMMV

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    Catman, Sep 12, 2010
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  8. Iced ones maybe.
     
    stephen.packer, Sep 12, 2010
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    wessie Guest

    Slime's FAQ says the stuff for inner tubes will pool if left to stand. With
    tubeless tyres the inside is rough, so the Slime mostly stays in situ. The
    inner wall of a tube is smooth so the Slime cannot grip in the same way and
    will eventually pool. As burnt says, they don't specify a temperture range
    where this pool can become a lump.
     
    wessie, Sep 12, 2010
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    Catman Guest

    Ahh, that makes sense.



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    Catman, Sep 12, 2010
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  11. But where there's packed snow they give you some chance of grip...
    maybe.

    Will try them and see how awful they are on the XT... may go back to the
    Tourances.
     
    stephen.packer, Sep 12, 2010
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    wessie Guest

    wrote in :
    Conti TKC80 may give you the best compromise. More off-road bias than
    Tourance but deemed suitable for road use and is OE fitment on the R1200GS.
     
    wessie, Sep 12, 2010
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