Two Vincent sightings in the last week

Discussion in 'Classic Motorcycles' started by Pip Luscher, Jul 22, 2010.

  1. If we are on tales of this kind I once rode an MZ250 from Birmingham to
    Leeds with a holed piston. Somewhere around Coventry it started
    misbehaving and would only run with the throttle wide open - so I just
    held it against the stop all the way. My mate (who owned the bike came
    up the next weekend and we stripped it down to find a hole in the
    piston. He just replaced it and it was fine. The MZ250 might have
    been a bit agricultural, but it was a solidly built thing (with totally
    c__p brakes!)

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    Andrew Chapman, Jul 26, 2010
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  2. Pip Luscher

    Pip Luscher Guest

    Don't get me wrong: I'd love to own one (and a DBD34 Gold Star), or at
    least ride one for a couple of hours, but they are, when all is said
    and done, a machine whose time has been and gone as a superbike.
     
    Pip Luscher, Jul 26, 2010
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    Pip Luscher Guest

    Well, not so old in this case.

    Still, 165BHP at 6500 RPM and 130 ft lb at 5800 RPM from a V-twin. Hur
    Hur Hurr!

    Pity it's only a marketing device. Also, unlikely to even get through
    SVA over here.
     
    Pip Luscher, Jul 27, 2010
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    Stephen Guest

    Eh? How does a single cylinder two stroke run with a hole in the
    piston?

    Can't see that working 'cos you'd get no compression of the charge to
    ignite it
    and no way of pushing the charge up the transfer ports from the
    crankcases
    on the exhaust stroke of the piston.

    Of course, I'm visualising a hole in the piston crown which might be
    where
    I'm going wrong.
     
    Stephen, Jul 29, 2010
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    Rusty Hinge Guest

    Sorry about the delay - bin doing other things...

    If I had a DBD34 you could have it.

    Now, a DBD32 - that's a different matter entirely.
     
    Rusty Hinge, Sep 16, 2010
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  6. Pip Luscher

    Rusty Hinge Guest

    In '63 I lost a Met-dibblery pursuit Daimler Dart on open dual carriageway.

    I understand, M'Lud, tht the DD did 150 mph.

    The Vin had been breathed-on and was stuffed^h^h^packed with Lightning bits.

    Even by today's standards, the Vin is a lovely wossname.
     
    Rusty Hinge, Sep 16, 2010
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  7. Pip Luscher

    Rusty Hinge Guest

    My mate used to carry a pot-mender and a tube of Green Hermatite.

    Got him home once - Ariel VB and double adult chair.
     
    Rusty Hinge, Sep 16, 2010
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  8. Pip Luscher

    Rusty Hinge Guest

    They don't tend to recover without some help.

    Now, pushing it to the nearest bridge and heaving it over the parapet -
     
    Rusty Hinge, Sep 16, 2010
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    Rusty Hinge Guest

    But you would be unlikely to get far with a C on three...
     
    Rusty Hinge, Sep 16, 2010
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    Rusty Hinge Guest

    First one I almost saw - missed it by seconds - was a low-loader with FO
    big wheels which had crossed the A1 somewhere up near Scotch Corner
    (when it was mostly single carriageway).

    Two cars - which I must have just thumbed - had gone under it.

    There was a Mini rolled up into a ball the size of an armchair, and a
    Vauxhall estate which a back wheel had flattened right up to the back.

    There was a bump where the engine was...

    I knew the ball was a Mini because of the wheels, and the back doors
    with a wheel behind them bore the legend 'Vauxhall'

    The driver of the low-loader was still sitting in the cab, white as a
    sheet.
     
    Rusty Hinge, Sep 16, 2010
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  11. Pip Luscher

    Rusty Hinge Guest

    Can I join in?

    I set off from Hornchurch in 1967 to go to the IOM TT. I'd borked my
    femur the previous year, and kneebend was in short supply, so I fitted a
    Watsonian scooter box sidecar to my T35 Douggie.

    To keep the thing down on left-handers I filled the box with tools and
    camping gear. Still a bit on the light side, I heaved in some spares as
    well.

    Halfway up Hertfordshire there was a loss of power and misfiring on the
    nearside pot. I couldn't see anything wrong, so I cleaned the plug. It
    ticked-over fine, but a bit of throttle, and half of it died. In the end
    , thinking to clean the carb I found that the needle in the main jet had
    come adrift, so the slide went up and down, but the needle noddle noo.

    Approaching Norman Cross on the A1, I gave it a bit of wellie and the
    crankshaft twisted on the journals.

    RAC towed me into a fine motorcycle shop and scrapyard in Stamford,
    where I pulled the engine apart. The owner of the place gave me the use
    of his Alpha True, and I tapped the crank back into line, and arranged
    for the journals on the spare to be spot-welded while I rebuilt the
    engine with the straightened crank.

    Tempus was fuging.

    All went well until Grantham when there was this shaking. Douglases
    don't shake. Then the nearside exhaust pipe flew out of the pot and
    waffle-box. I tapped it back in and set off again.

    Still shook, and this time I ran over the pipe and adjusted the
    circularity of the waffle-box end. Using one of those deathtrap concrete
    pillars which signs used to be hung on as an anvil, I corrected the
    flatness enough for the pipe to be replaced. Then I started the engine
    and watched.

    The nearside pot was pretending to be a piston. "Bah!" I thought (or
    something like that), expecting to have to look for 6 x 5/56th" BSF nuts
    to resecure the cylinder to the studs. Not a bit of it - the pot had
    sheared right round its circumference just above the crankcase.

    A Spanish windlass round the pots and engine got me to a safe parking
    place, and I hitched back to Hornchurch to pick-up a pair of pots and
    pistons.

    However...

    They turned out to be early Plus series, which had 3/8" stud holes and
    which bumped-up the c.r. by one.

    Unfortunately...

    Th pistons were also Plus 90 ones, and they bumped-up the c.r. still
    further. We went from 7.25:1 to nearly 10:1.

    I was running out of money and the TT was about finished, so I set off
    back home. In Stamford again, I bought a short piece of brassed curtain
    rod, which cut up nicely for spacers round the studs. Then I carried on.

    Eeee, but she flew!

    CLUNK!

    Sodding crankshaft again! I pushed the lot the half mile to Norman
    Cross, where there was an offroady bit behind an RAC box. I drained the
    oil, had the engine out, and split the crankcase, I used the blowlamp to
    heat the front half and change the mainshaft bush.

    In a remarkably short time I was ready to put the lump back. The RAC man
    remarked that he'd seen some roadside repairs, but this took the
    biscuit. Then I heard another Douggie pull up in the layby. "Here's help
    to get the engine back in!" I thought.

    It was me mate Ralph Killips on his way home from visiting his folks, an
    we rode in convoy, I to Hornchurch, then he went on^h^h^back to Romford.

    I have left out a few fiddly bits, but I don't want to clog-up the server.
     
    Rusty Hinge, Sep 16, 2010
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    Rusty Hinge Guest

    /Oily wrote:

    Tristicated wankshafts/
    A spot of weld either side of each end of both crankpins solves the
    problem, and as long as you aren't too enthusiastic (No 10 jet on oxy,
    or 140 amps for a measurable time...) the blob can be cold chiselled-off
    without too much trouble innit.

    Another mod is to molish an increased volume/pressure oil pump and an
    oilfeed into the back of the crankshaft.
     
    Rusty Hinge, Sep 18, 2010
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  13. Pip Luscher

    Rusty Hinge Guest

    Next cheap Douggie you find you can hurl my way.

    Mined ewe, that goes for a lot of other SOBs

    Oe of my mates lightened a Mk# frame and ditto for engine. He fitted a
    home-made triple capacity oil pump, a bush instead of the self-centering
    ball-raace at the gearbox end, and an oil feed through the back main to
    the rear big-end.

    He shortened the pots a bit, fitted +90 pistons, opened-up the inlet and
    exhaust tracts, polished them like unto mirrors, replaced the valves and
    springs with Triumph ones, stirred in 1" Monoblocs, replaced the cams
    with Stellite-coated high-lift ones of his own manufacture (yes, he was
    an engineer by trade) and improved the gearbox.

    This was based on a + series one, and the main mod was to turn down the
    selector pegs and clothe them with (IIRC) 5/16" rollers from a Reynolds
    chain, and secure them against falling off...

    This made for a highly slick gearchange, which I can vouch for, as I
    restored a worn gearbox myself that way.

    One (500) Goldie owner was disparaging Douglas chamines, and Pat
    accepted a contest. Goldie got off first, but shortly after that Pat
    screame past him.

    Back at he Lay-By, the Goldie rider asked: "How fast does that effin'
    thing go? I was doing 105 when you went past me!"

    "You must have a tuned speedo, mate:" Pat replied "this only does 90."
     
    Rusty Hinge, Sep 19, 2010
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    mark Guest

    :D
     
    mark, Sep 19, 2010
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    Rusty Hinge Guest

    The volume and pressure wasn't, but for some reason the oil tended to
    sidle by the front big-end without visiting.
    Nah - seizes up: crank hits crankcase.
    Getting on for that here TAAAW. There's a triangular-ish hole in the
    bottom of the sump, and the (eccentric bore with vanes on the rotatybit)
    pump is stuffed (and screwed) in it. IIRC it runs off one of the camshafts.
     
    Rusty Hinge, Sep 19, 2010
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    Greg Procter Guest


    My old Ariel 500 twin put a conrod through the front of ther crank-case
    (in 1969) about 100 miles from home. (New Zealand countryside - no bike
    shops for 100 miles) Tied the flappy end of the conrod to the frame,
    cut a tin can to fit over the hole, wedged it in with a chunk of
    firewood
    from a nearby house, pulled the sparkplug, and rode it home, topping up
    the oil every 5-10 miles. I got most of the leaking oil back, soaked
    into
    my left trouser leg and boot. (and foot) It went quite well as a 250cc!
    Was a bit worried when I hit the city, what with roundabouts and a very
    well oiled back tyre.

    Greg.P.
    NZ
     
    Greg Procter, Sep 19, 2010
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    Rusty Hinge Guest

    Oily wrote:

    /Douggie/
    'Handles well' doesn't describe it adequately.

    On my Mk4 Sports I held-off a mate on his Dommie through the Essex lanes
    - the Sports' pipes went over the pots, and I could lay it over when the
    Dommie's silencers were scraping ground.

    *AND* the Dommie was regularly used in classic races.

    Don said he'd never sneer at Douggies again.
     
    Rusty Hinge, Sep 20, 2010
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