Tyre Pressures

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Krusty, Jun 30, 2009.

  1. Krusty

    Krusty Guest

    Been having a mooch around tyre websites, & noticed something that's
    baffled me a bit. Take Pirelli for example; they recommend the Diablo
    Corsa III for the MV, with 2.3 bar front & rear. Yet for the same tyre
    & size on the Jap 750s (GSX-R, R7 & ZX-7R) they say 2.5 bar front & 2.9
    bar rear.

    I can't figure out why there'd be such a big difference on the rear for
    the MV, bearing in mind the fairly similar weight & power output. Any
    ideas?
     
    Krusty, Jun 30, 2009
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  2. Krusty

    Krusty Guest

    Stupid boy.
     
    Krusty, Jun 30, 2009
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  3. Krusty

    Simon Wilson Guest

    Jap bikes are ridden by fat(ter) bastards?
     
    Simon Wilson, Jun 30, 2009
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  4. Krusty

    Pip Luscher Guest

    Wild guess #1: it's lighter/carries its weight further forward than
    other comparable bikes;

    Wild guess #2: it's more powerful and more likely to run the rear tyre
    hot;

    Wild guess #2a it's even more of a sports toy than other bikes and
    likely to be ridden harder, thus more likely to run the rear tyre hot;

    Really Wild guess #3: the rear suspension needs to work with a softer
    tyre spring rate for some reason.
     
    Pip Luscher, Jun 30, 2009
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  5. Krusty

    Krusty Guest

    2a - unlikely imo. 1, 2 & 3 had all crossed my mind (3 because the
    standard suspension settings are harder than typical Jap bikes), but it
    just seems like too big a difference, even taking all of the above into
    account.
     
    Krusty, Jun 30, 2009
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  6. Krusty

    ts Guest

    Different wheel/rim material? Or profile?

    Quote from Ducati SS owner's Manual: "To avoid front wheel rim
    distorsions when riding on bumpy roads, increase tyre pressure by
    0.2-0.3 bar"

    Yes, it was _front_ rim distorsion, but it may have to do with different
    profiles; the Duc 750 SS should have a 60 profile and the 900 a 70 one
    on the same wheel dimension. Several 750 SS owners I know of have had to
    have their front rim straightened.
     
    ts, Jun 30, 2009
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  7. Krusty

    Pip Guest

    That's gender reassignment surgery, right?
     
    Pip, Jul 1, 2009
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  8. Me and Bruce, for starters.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jul 1, 2009
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  9. Krusty

    Doki Guest

    I suspect it's all about wheel rate. Tyre pressures make a big difference to
    what forces the suspension recieve. Same thing as some tyres suiting some
    models fine whilst being naff on others - the carcass strength affects the
    wheel rate.

    IIRC Caterham found several seconds a lap after trying their stock tyre and
    wheel combo on a chassis dyno, and getting some tyres that actually suited
    the suspension.
     
    Doki, Jul 1, 2009
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