Tyres (more specifically, Bridgestone tyres)

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Bob Milutinovic, Jan 4, 2012.

  1. G'day, folks...

    That time has come again, when the black stuff that keeps the shiny bits up
    top needs to be replaced.

    I have an '04 Vulcan 800 Classic (VN800B) requiring a 140/90-16 rear tyre.
    The factory-standard one was a Bridgestone Exedra G702, which I'd like to
    get back to.

    I have on it at the moment a Pirelli T66 (MT66?) which does its job well,
    except for the fact that it's lasted 25% less than the original (got around
    20,000Km out of each of the Bridgestones I had before but the Pirelli's on
    its last legs at just over 14,000Km).

    Doing the rounds 'round a couple of the bike dealers yielded no fruit WRT
    Bridgestone (everyone seems to have gone Pirelli these days?), so I'd like
    to ask you learned and informed folk for recommendations of where I could
    get the Bridgestone from. I'm located in Liverpool NSW and would prefer to
    pick the tyre up rather than paying for freight, so recommendations of North
    Perth probably wouldn't be too helpful.

    On a mostly unrelated note...

    Has anybody ever heard of or used bike-parts.com.au? Seems a bit of a shonky
    operation, with no contact information whatsoever and every "buy now" link
    shuffling off to cyclegear.com in the USA. To make things worse, absolutely
    none of the "buy now" links work - they land a 404 (page not found) error at
    the remote end.
    Bob Milutinovic, Jan 4, 2012
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  2. They certainly sound dodgy with this first ad.

    BRIDGESTONE Exedra G702 Street Motorcycle Tires 140/90-16 TT REAR
    Price: $100.79

    Then when you click on that, up comes
    Features and Benefits Uni-directional pattern for reliable performance on
    dry and wet surfaces Designed primarily for Japanese cruisers, the Exedra G
    series provides long mileage, good stability, crisp handling and riding
    comfort G700 series is the popular original equipment choice on many of the
    Japanese cruisers such as Yamaha Royal Star, Kawasaki Vulcan and Suzuki

    Product Details

    Our Price: $154.59

    Price had gone up $54 just by clicking

    Wonder what would happen if you actually went through with a purchase?

    The prices on everything there goes up $50 odd when you click on
    George W Frost, Jan 4, 2012
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  3. In aus.motorcycles on Thu, 5 Jan 2012 03:23:32 +1100
    Have you tried Chivos in Granville? (02) 9682 5950

    Zebee Johnstone, Jan 4, 2012
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    CrazyCam Guest

    G'day Bob.
    A bit further away than North Perth, I have had good service from this
    mob in the U.S.


    The US prices are sufficiently good that the shipping still leaves them
    ahead of the local prices.

    CrazyCam, Jan 4, 2012
  5. I recall you mentioning this a while ago Cam, at the time I thought it would
    be better and still do.
    George W Frost, Jan 5, 2012
  6. Thanks Zeb, I'll give 'em a call in nthe morning.
    Bob Milutinovic, Jan 5, 2012
  7. Thanks Cam,

    I've already got details from another US-based vendor to have the tyre
    landed here for about USD$190 (using cruisercustomizing.com's price-match
    deal against motorcycle-superstore.com's lower tyre price - the latter
    doesn't ship to Australia), but thought I'd give the locals a chance first.

    Call me a patriot (despite my wog heritage), but I'd quite happily pay up to
    20% more for a product from a local vendor than get one from overseas.
    Anything more than 20% though and I'll order online like everyone else.

    At the moment, I have absolutely no idea what these tyres are going for in
    Australia (long time since I bought the last Bridgestone, old age, lack of
    sleep, too much sex, etc., etc., etc...) so I've no way of knowing if that
    ~$190 is worthwhile or not.
    Bob Milutinovic, Jan 5, 2012
  8. As I originally noted, clicking on any "buy" link takes you to a
    non-existent page on cyclegear.com in the USA.

    Hmmm... Interesting... Manually going to cyclegear.com and finding the
    requisite tyre, I find they're actually cheaper than the previous sites I'd
    seen - and they ship to Australia: $USD154 (actually USD$153.98) including

    That still doesn't explain the strange bike-parts.com.au site. The domain's
    registered to Erobotics Pty Ltd, ACN 138-022-705.
    Bob Milutinovic, Jan 5, 2012
  9. Well, now I have something to work with - Chivo's quoted $230 for the tyre,
    which I have no reason to suspect is an inflated ('scuse the pun) price for
    an Australian retailer (based on that price, I can only suspect other bike
    shops would want $250+).

    So the US-website-purchase route seems to be attractive enough to go with.
    Bob Milutinovic, Jan 6, 2012
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    CrazyCam Guest

    Sad, but....<shrug>

    CrazyCam, Jan 6, 2012
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    atec77 Guest

    I wanted a new brake booster and master cylinder for my 64 pickup ,
    repco and bursons wanted close to 750$ , a new one took 10 days from the
    states and cost 247$ with freight , seems to me retailers forget a
    comparison is all to easy these days

    It never harms to shop it to death


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    atec77, Jan 6, 2012
  12. I don't blame the retailers that much (though admittedly there're some who
    want their customers to bleed through their wallets); Australian
    importers/distributed have been known for a long time to ramp the prices up

    Several years ago I bought a new set of pipes from the USA, air freighted in
    (3 days), at less than half what they'd have cost me here. I mentioned this
    to a local bike dealer, who then took me into his office and showed me the
    distributor's wholesale price list. The distributor's price was almost 50%
    more than what I'd paid from the USA (including freight), so there was no
    way the retailer could've competed - not even if he'd sold them to me at his
    cost price.
    Bob Milutinovic, Jan 6, 2012
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    Bill_h Guest

    I've had the same experience with Panasonic and their cameras and lenses. There is a massive markup (by Panasonic) for the local market, and local retailers can't compete.
    Bill_h, Jan 6, 2012
  14. Add Triumph to that list. I needed a throttle position sensor for the
    Thruxton. Local bike shop $280 plus 8 weeks wait. UK bike shop was
    $140 delivered to my door and there in a week. Thank you
    jacklilley.co.uk and whoever it was here who recommended them.
    Fraser Johnston, Jan 10, 2012
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    TimC Guest

    What is the purpose of distributers? Every industry I've dealt with
    (computers, camera, bicycles, motorbikes) has the Australian
    distributer making insane profit margins. If I can go to the web, why
    can't the bike shops? Sure, the distributer would get pissed off and
    cancel their agreement with the shop, so it's an all-or-nothing
    affair. Maybe just too much work? Or are there still parallel import
    rules in effect somewhere?

    Gerry Harvey can whinge all he wants, but it's not the GST that's
    "killing" his business. And he is the fucking distributer.
    TimC, Jan 12, 2012
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    TimC Guest

    Pivot pegz made in Tassie. I didn't know this until I opened up the
    box that arrived from the states, $50 cheaper than if I purchased
    online locally (and difficult to find in Australia too).
    TimC, Jan 12, 2012
  17. There're admittedly fewer reasons today than there were a couple of decades
    (or more) ago, but there're still some good reasons why a retailer would
    source their products from a local distributor, rather than from overseas;

    1. The local distributor provides the warranty on the products. It's easier
    (and cheaper) for the retailer or customer to hand faulty products back to
    the local distributor for repair/replacement than it is to send them

    2. Consistency of supply. Most of the online suppliers we (the consumers)
    buy from only have stocks of a few units of a particular item, and there's
    no guarantee they'll be available the following week, let alone the
    following month or year - and there's certainly no guarantee of a consistent

    3. Ordering quantities. Most overseas wholesalers and manufacturers will
    simply refuse to ship a few items at a time, and generally retailers can't
    afford to order 1000 units of a particular product if their turnover is 1 or
    2 products per week or even less.

    4. Ease of ordering. Whereas a retailer might have to deal with 100
    different suppliers for 100 different product lines, they're likely to be
    able to source at least 25 product lines locally from the same distributor.
    In order to save on the mark-ups, the retailer would have to employ at least
    one full-time staff member to keep on top of the product-to-supplier
    relationships and order control.

    That all of course doesn't in any way justify the ludicrous mark-ups
    Australian distributors impose on the products they handle. What's even
    worse though, is the Australian subsidiaries of overseas companies - they're
    already making their profit at the manufacturing level, so why does their
    local office need to append a massive premium to the price?
    I can quite proudly proclaim that I've spent a net total of $30 with "Mr.
    Harvey" since his metamorphosis from Norman Ross. Anyone with more than
    three brain cells will immediately see that their prices are always more
    expensive for the same product than any other retailer in their respective
    field, and the products which are heavily discounted aren't worth even the
    value of the carboard box they come in.

    Alas, there're far too many people in this world with fewer than three brain
    cells :-/
    Bob Milutinovic, Jan 12, 2012
  18. It may very well be that local distributors told each of the manufacturers
    to "FOAD" when they approached them to distribute their products, so their
    only option was to employ the services of an overseas distribution point.

    Then again, there may be other forces at play. I remember when Ford
    announced the "new Capri." I can't quite recall how much it was selling for
    in Australia, but remember hearing that its price in the US (despite it
    being made here) was about 30% cheaper - even after the add-on costs of
    freight and distribution.
    Bob Milutinovic, Jan 12, 2012
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    Nev.. Guest


    Nev.., Jan 12, 2012
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    Nev.. Guest

    Yes, the Capri was cheaper to buy in the USA, but that wasn't an
    anomoly, it was the same sort of marketing strategy that any
    manufacturer uses to get a foothold in a new market, by entering the
    market with a subsidised product and wearing a loss until, hopefully,
    demand for the product allows them to increases the price and recoup
    their losses.

    Nev.., Jan 12, 2012
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