Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Bear [QUOTE] The PP2000s? Yes. I wrung mine out at Lozzo's today, after a heavy shower, and the water ran black. I then looked at my hands and, sure enough, blue-black :)[/QUOTE] Oh riiiiiiiiiight. I just assumed you'd been over-wanking. Sorry. I'd have shaken you hand if I'd known...