http://www.motorcyclists-online.com/o1_755_First-Look---Moto-Guzzi-V7-Classic.html Dunno really. It doesn't quite have the rounded lines of the original V7 http://digilander.libero.it/massimo254/MOTO/guzzi_v7_special.JPG Probably a lot lighter and faster though.... Zebee
A small-block V7? The word blasphemy comes to mind. Isn't that like a two-stroke Triumph Bonneville? Theo
I reckon it looks like the old 860GTS Ducati. http://www.dankelman.nl/images/Modellen/Ducati_860GT.jpg
Pretty damn close as I remember mine from back then currently in the trading post a similar http://tinyurl.com/2anhto
Now, that is a nice looking machine. If it is similar in weight, power, etc. to the more modern looking 750's and reasonably priced, I could be tempted. regards, CrazyCam
Not being a guzzi-ista, the first bit of comment goes right over my head, but the two-stroke idea, if applied to the Street Triple, that would get my attention. regards, CrazyCam
In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:49:19 +1100 Can't see why it wouldn't be, it's a 750 small block, so it would end up being similar in price to the Nevada I expect. It won't have the sheer presence of a loopframe so a loopframe fan like me isn't impressed but I do admit that tonnage isn't everything! Of course whether it makes it over here, that's something else again. Zebee
In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 02 Nov 2007 07:09:40 +1100 Which is why an old bike person[1] like me isn't into them. I figure if you want to look like you are riding an old bike, then ride an old bike! Instead of trying for the cachet witout the headaches. On the other hand, a bike with a flat seat and no plastic around the occy strap points is going to make a decent workhorse. The round headlight will be maintainable from car spares for years, and with crashbars it will be very crashable. I don't think anyone will buy this cos it looks like a loopframe, but they might if they want a seriously practical do anything go anywhere self-maintainable bike and don't like the image driven current market. Zebee [1] that's "old bike" person thank you.
I guess a lot depends on one's level of emotional involvement with the "original". If Zebee and I stand looking at an original V7, I see an old Guzzi, and she can probably tell who bolted the engine into the frame at the factory. In some respects, I agree with Zebee that folk that fancy having an old bike should have a "real" old bike, but, I consider that the retro styling is a valid alternative to the "Buck Rogers on Ice" style of so many modern motorcycles. Part of the reason that I have had so much difficulty in finding a replacement to the Hornet has been that I don't like bikes with weird for the sake of being weird shaped bits. In contrast to the V7 Classic, how about http://www.motorcyclists-online.com/o1_754_Moto-Guzzi-1200-Stelvio--first-official-pictures.html Now that, while it might be a wonderful motorcycle, looks like shit to me. <shrug> regards, CrazyCam
In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 02 Nov 2007 08:13:07 +1100 There is that. Plus you can't get a bike without an image attached. Can't get just a bike, you have to have a racerep or a goldwing copy or an enduro copy or an "edgy urban design". No allrounders. Guzzi at least do the Breva and Norge[1] although the Breva does have some odd plasticy bits for the sake of having odd plasticy bits and has too much plastic around the cargo area. Zebee [1] quota filled
Let me try to rephrase it then. It would be like making a Holden FJ replica with a four cylinder Torana engine, or a Falcon GT Phase III replica with a V-six. Nothing much wrong with the Guzzi Small-block engine or frame, but it's not anything like a V7. Theo
In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 2 Nov 2007 08:12:23 +0900 For one thing, it weighs less than a small truck. It isn't a loopframe if it doesn't dent the concrete when you put it on the stand! Zebee
In aus.motorcycles on Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:40:02 -0700 Tell that to the gy I saw doing courier runs on his Darmah That's why I liked the 850T. Solid workhorse, easy to get bits for, and you can hoon it too. At least the bod who has bought it is riding it regularly rather than doing what he first thought he'd do which is put it in a shed, take it to bits then try and find the parts to cafe it. I persuaded him to ride it at least till the rego ran out. Now he's going to re-register it and keep riding it while he accumulated parts. There was a time when some bevels were unwanted.... I could have got more for the T if I had waited, but I needed the room and it went to a good home. Zebee
Well as a 2003 Triumph Bonnie owner, all I can say is it looks beautiful to me. I've ridden my friends 750 Breva and love the engine but feel a bit "squished". This looks a bit more open and easier on anyone who's not a midget. Not like the wogs to think of comfort. I think I'm in love. Thanks Zebee.
Ah, right, thanks for the explanation. From what I've see of folk with these small-block Brevias, they seem to work quite adequately well, but I am not too comfortable with the looks of it. The Navada felt nice sitting on it, price seemed fairly reasonable, but I'm not totally rapt with the "cruiser" look either. The blokes I spoke to on the Guzzi stand at the bike show had seen the piccies of the V7 Classic, thought it would eventually find its way to Oz, but advised me not to hold my breath. They agreed that it was a sweet looking motorbike. regards, CrazyCam
In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 02 Nov 2007 14:14:27 +1100 There are very few options in the middleweights[1] for people who don't want cruisers or sportbikes. I think the GS500 is one of the few. The Kwak version is weird looking, Skorpions aren't made anymore, Breva is as you say a bit weird too... If they could make it the size of a V50 that would be sweet! Zebee [1] How times change. When I first started riding a 500 was a middleweight and a 750 was a big bike, the older mags were still calling a 350 a middleweight. Now a 500 is a small bike...