Valve Cover Sealant

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Technical Discussion' started by Larry, May 17, 2005.

  1. Larry

    Larry Guest

    I have an 85 Shadow 1100 that has no gasket on the valve cover. The manual
    recommends a liquid sealant. I used Permetex blue RTV but it leaks.
    What's the best type to use?
     
    Larry, May 17, 2005
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  2. Larry

    gazzafield Guest



    If it really does say no gasket I would use an old, large cornflakes box or
    similar with a skim of sealant on either side. There isn't too much
    pressure up in the valve area so it should hold up fine. There is also the
    possibility that your valve is slightly warped causing the leak.
     
    gazzafield, May 17, 2005
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  3. Larry

    Larry Guest

    When I removed the valve cover there was no gasket and the manual states
    sealant only. It looks like a clear sealant was used before.
     
    Larry, May 17, 2005
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    John Johnson Guest

    Without meaning to be picky, he didn't say that there should be no
    gasket, only that there isn't one there. I couldn't find fiche for the
    '85 Shadow, but the fiche for the '87 shows gaskets in that location.
    Unfortunately I'm not familiar enough with that machine to know how
    similar the '85 is to the '87. I'd be a bit surprised that Honda didn't
    put a gasket there, though.

    For the OP:
    1. are you _sure_ that there's not supposed to be a gasket there?
    2. Whose manual are you using? IME Honda manuals specify the sealant to
    be used.
     
    John Johnson, May 17, 2005
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  5. Larry

    John Johnson Guest


    Good work. I don't know how I missed the '85 at Ron Ayers (which is
    where I found the '87 fiche). This is one more reason to get the Honda
    manual instead of something else.

    As for the use of 'goop' on my VFR Honda specifies the use of Hondabond
    on the cam cover gaskets, and not just on the 'half-moons'. I don't mean
    to imply that the OP should use anything on his gaskets, but to say that
    whether any sealant should be used, and what sealant to use, will vary
    from bike to bike. As Mr. Olson says above, you need to know what Honda
    recommends for _your_ bike before making any decisions about what (not)
    to use.
     
    John Johnson, May 17, 2005
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  6. Larry

    Larry Guest

    I'm using the Honda Factory manual and a Haynes manual. There is a gasket
    on the tappet cover and the cam cover but NO gasket on the cylinder head
    cover.

    Thats where the leak is coming from between the cylinder & the cylinder head
    cover. The manual states" Apply a liquid sealant to the mating surfaces of
    the cylinder head cover" I checked the Service Honda fiche and it shows no
    gasket. As I mentioned when I pulled the cover off there was no gasket but
    sings of a clear sealant.
     
    Larry, May 17, 2005
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  7. Larry

    John Johnson Guest

    That would explain it, then. :)
    All true enough. I've just been burned and/or confused rather often with
    Haynes and Clymers products in the past (though their quality may very
    well have come up since). The only problem with the Honda manual is the
    dreaded "special tool", instead of which, as you point out, aftermarket
    manuals often have suggestions for alternative procedures.

    lol I'd go the other way: if you had to only get one, get the Honda. It
    certainly is better to have a couple of manuals to check against,
    though. I've heard good things about the common service manual, but
    never managed to get around to owning one. <shrug> Always check your
    public library. You never know what manuals they've got stashed there.
     
    John Johnson, May 17, 2005
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  8. Larry

    Iowa883 Guest

    I actually prefer Three Bond and have used it for years with success.
    Iowa883
     
    Iowa883, May 18, 2005
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