Very interesting thread

Not crashed properly, no. Done pirouettes in my X1/9s on occasion when
the back let go and they were living up to their reputation of being
hard to catch.

Guess that's what you get for being a student and not being able to
afford decent tyres.

 

I just skimmed through all 28 pages homing in on his posts. As you say,
no question in his mind that he was guilty.

Makes you think, irretrievably losing control of a car does, even if
nobody gets hurt. In view of the comments about from usenet postings
being used against him perhaps going in to more detail wouldn't be a
good idea. Though I think I may have already mentioned it.


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Well, as he pointed out that several of the other Honda drivers had the
forum URL displayed prominently on their cars. I've always wondering if
that was such a good idea (none of my cars have sport any URLs, nor do
the bike numberplates mention UKRM/UKRMC anymore) and I guess it's just
been confirmed that it wasn't.

 

I think Tallbloke nailed the salient point the rest of the revvy cunts
overlooked in their rush to back-slap the guy for his chest-baring.

What kind of almost stationary or totally stationary car could punt a
bike 14metres backwards down the road?

A fucking moving one.

Ergo, the guy is a lying ****.

 

Of course not, if we're talking about steel balls.

Has to be a helluva lot of bounce in it and I don't see it happening
when crumple zones are involved. Fourteen metres, ffs.

 

That seems to sum up tallbloke's grasp of physics displayed in the
above thread.

 

Well no. He does admit his toy was "almost stationary" so he wasn't
lying as such. Mistaken, almost certainly.

Given that his senses would have been more attuned to the scenery
flashing by at speeds perhaps an order of magnitude faster then "almost
stationary" only a fraction of a second before then it could be argued
that while his recollection of the events may be accurate his perception
of them is flawed.

The rest of your opinion is bang on the mark though.

 

An Escort Ghia through the side of a house. There were mitigating
circumstances but I was "travelling".

I think this bloke was done rather harshly. Everyone using the road takes a
risk. The bloke on the bike came too fast round a blind bend, to look at it
another way.

 

My old Mum borrowed my car for the day, when I was 18. On my return
home, having been dropped off by a cow-orker, I observed my MKI Escort
parked right at the top of the drive, up against the garage doorpost.
It wasn't normal to leave a car there, now was it normal for a car on
thr drive to be listing slightly to the right.

Approaching the front door, the old dear burst out of it and gathered
me in a massive Mumsy hug (which, to be fair, took me right by
surprise and all the breath out of my lungs) as it wasn't even near
her normal style - no rolling pin involvement, for a start. She
half-dragged me into the house, gushing about her day, and that there
was a cup of tea waiting for me, and how had my day been ...

then she worked around to her return from shopping, and
eventually to how she'd been tailgated by a 'rough-looking man' in a
Transit coming up the road. He'd prolly been pissed off at her for
doing 25, she could only tell he looked rough because the distance
between the driver's mirror and his nose was less than fifteen feet.

So she'd turned into the drive at 25. A 90 degree turn onto inclined
concrete in an Escort 1300, wearing Pirelli Singeyerarseoles (on
ROStyles, natch). Instead of hitting the brakes, she'd hit (in
chronological order) the sycamore on the right, the gatepost on the
right - (and then the left with the n/s/l) a bunch of bedding plants
on the left, a large spiky bush on teh left, the side wall of the
house on the right - the soilpipe on the right - another bush on the
left ... and the garage doorpost - dead centre.

Damage extended to two flat tyres, two buckled wings and a dinged
wheel, a fucked front bumper and grille, a broken headlight and
indicator, and paint scrapes all the way down both sides.

Two gateposts that needed rebuilding, two bushes flattened, the soil
pipe (that was *expensive*) and the garage doorpost split
longitudinally.

Two hankies soaked and mangled beyond all recognition, two cups and a
saucer fragmented, a teapot that was never quite the same again: and
she completely wore out the big red-eyed sorrowful look which was
never used again.

She never exercised her driving licence again, either.

 

Bikes do bounce back from some impacts. There's a surprising amount of
spring effect in a pair of telescopic forks, for a start.

 

On 11 Dec, 17:00, (The Older

Good call, I hate all this "I'm a biker, I'm faultless" bullshit.

Maybe there are two ukrms. The people I've ridden with and the
sanctimonious cunts that post here.

 

Me, 3 month old Vogue efi Range Rover hire car upside down in a ditch
near Latheron Wheel.

 

Isn't it just.

I'd like to add at this point that I've never broken the speed limit,
overtaken on white lines, cut anyone up, used the hard shoulder as an
overtaking lane, ridden whilst under the influence of alcohol, rolled
cigarettes whilst speeding, used my mobile whilst driving, rooted
around in the glovebox for cd's whilst driving nor (especially this
one) ended up on the pavement after attempting a handbrake turn in a
hire car in a foreign city.

 

Err... it wadn't me.

I do recall something like that happening in front of me about 18 years
ago.

 

Imo Tallbloke's on the right track. The **** said at first he was nearly
stationary, later amended it to 'I might have been doing anything
between 5mph and 20mph' (paraphrased).

In fact, as the OP admitted, he looked at the markings on the road when
he got out of his car and the skidmarks of his tyres were broken by the
scrapes on the road made by the bike.
It all adds up to the **** overcooking it and flying round the bend
literally sideways (which he's admitted) collecting a bike on the way
but, and this is the important bit imo...

....His car, after collecting the bike, continued to travel sideways for
a substantial distance which, unless I've forgotten everything I ever
absorbed in fizziks classes speaketh volumes about the velocity he was
still travelling at when the impact occured. Bear in the mind the speed
(unknown, but must have been at least 30mph) and mass of the Buell,
which was scooped up and dragged back the way it came.

I cannot put any figures on it, and neither could the coppers on the
scene, but I'd be prepared to wager one or two RT cops had a fair notion
of what speed the **** was doing but were unable to prove it.

Imagine, if you will, you are riding along a twisty road when a car
suddenly appears from around a sharp right hand bend, this car on your
side of the road and travelling in a sideways manner towards you at
speed.

Brown trousers.

 

Your identical twin is a bit of a **** though, isn't he?

 

Cool. How?

 

The Mazda, wasn't it?

 

"But I have, while arseholed, lent my ZX10R to a Frog who was even more
pissed than I was and let him rag the **** out of it while my missus
threw a strop that amused all of ukrm there present."

 

*Waves"

*Waves again*

*Invests in a waving machine*

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