Very OT/ FOAK: Chopping Board recommendation?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Donnie, Aug 24, 2010.

  1. Donnie

    SIRPip Guest

    That's because a proper butcher uses a proper butcher's block. Big
    solid wooden structure a couple of feet or bigger on a side, standing
    on legs to about waist height. The cutting area which forms the top
    surface is inch square blocks on end, presenting end grain to the
    blade. They use end grain because although it is more difficult to
    clean and wears more quickly, it is kind to the edge of the blade.
    They want to cut big chunks of meat quickly and all the way through,
    without wasting time sharpening blades all day - just a strop before
    use, that'll do 'em.

    Of course, they clean the block. at the end of every day, the most
    junior member of staff sloshes hot water onto it and then scrubs it
    with a particularly spiky scrubbing brush which removes the top surface
    layer and all the blood and debris attached to it. A final wash over
    with more hot clean water and it's good for the next day. This has
    been proved in use for centuries and is still quite acceptable today.

    Of course, they only use the block for cutting raw meat which, except
    in the case of semi-vampire carnivores like Packer, will be cooked
    before consumption, which will kill any surface bacterial
    contamination. As it is only used for raw meat there is no chance of
    cross-contamination, which is the real bugbear with boards.

    Of course, the thing wears, and wears unevenly. There is still a
    thriving business in resurfacing butcher's blocks, which entails
    skimming the top surface off until it is level. That's why the
    endgrain blocks are made over a foot long in the first place, to allow
    for several resurfacing procedures in the lifetime of the block.
     
    SIRPip, Aug 31, 2010
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  2. Donnie

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    Relative hardness is no guarantee against insect attack. One of my
    wood stores became infected with the bloody worm and they perforated a
    couple of lovely bits of chestnut, all the eucalyptus and oak, but left
    the spalted beech and pine alone. Harder woods must taste better.

    Oak is phenomenally abrasive. Turning wood is a particularly good way
    to demonstrate this, as the turner presses a common steel chisel
    against the rotating wood it replicates many hours of normal chiselling
    in a few seconds. It will take the fine edge off a chisel in one pass,
    and blunt it in three. Compare that to beech or chestnut where a
    chisel is good for many passes and there has to be something different.
    Even the exotics which are as dense as or denser than oak don't turn an
    edge like oak does.

    Chisel sharpness is vital when turning, which is why I have a dedicated
    bench grinder mounted on the end of the lathe bench and when turning
    oak the grinder is running all the time so I can put a fresh edge on
    the tool every thirty seconds or so - spending as much time sharpening
    as turning.

    The foreign hardwoods are more than just mildly poisonous, too. I
    can't see any problem with allowing food to come into contact with
    them, however - but you don't want to breathe in the dust created when
    sanding them, because that would be a Bad Thing. Most professional
    woodworkers use air-fed helmets these days, similar to the items used
    by paint sprayers, in order to avoid long-term respiratory problems.
    I've had wheezes and sore eyes through filter masks and goggles, caused
    by mahogany-alikes before, even with only short-term exposure.
     
    SIRPip, Aug 31, 2010
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  3. Donnie

    SIRPip Guest

    Genuine LOLlery there. Good work.
     
    SIRPip, Aug 31, 2010
  4. Donnie

    SIRPip Guest

    ginge wrote:

    [Ikea]
    Yers. Dis pair never matches dat pair, so you have to go all the way
    round again to get another lot.
     
    SIRPip, Aug 31, 2010
  5. Donnie

    SIRPip Guest

    Oh, it's catching up with exchanges like this that make catching up
    with a week's worth of posts worthwhile. I'm so pleased I didn't let
    Mark read this lot for me.

    Nice. Snappy.
     
    SIRPip, Aug 31, 2010
  6. Donnie

    SIRPip Guest

    I bought a shedload of Lakeland Plastics "flexible chopping boards"
    some time ago. In all the approved colours, the coding worked well -
    but the best thing was their flexibility: chop a bunch of veg on one,
    roll up the 'board' and shoot all of the choppage straight into the
    pot. None of this scraping in and watching bits roll astray and bounce
    onto the floor. So thin and flexible as to be shortlived, but so cheap
    as to be treated as disposable. Great stuff.
     
    SIRPip, Aug 31, 2010
  7. Donnie

    SIRPip Guest

    Wood is fine. I wouldn't go for end grain boards unless you're
    prepared to clean them thoroughly, but straight grain is knife-friendly
    enough for a domestic kitchen IME. Just don't go for the silicone
    "self-healing" type of board. They take a slice from a knife or
    cleaver, the blade pushes debris into the cut and the lips of the cut
    close up when the blade is withdrawn. You can hardly see the cut, let
    alone clean it and so the debris remains there until the next time you
    cut into it, and transfer that old debris into your fresh material that
    you're cutting.

    Waste of time and money going for the "Microban" type of "bacteriacidal
    material" boards too.

    I use cheap and cheerful white nylon boards and scrub 'em clean. Two
    boards, one for meat, the other for veg, and when they gat solied I
    stick 'em in the sink and let 'em steep in bleach solution for a couple
    of hours. When they get beyond scrubbing, I chuck 'em away (or
    relegate 'em to the shed for cutting purposes out there) and get new
    ones. Cheap enough and they only need replacing once a year or so.
    Cool. I like their thinking. Best of all worlds, it seems.
     
    SIRPip, Aug 31, 2010
  8. Donnie

    SIRPip Guest

    I don't mind IKEA at all, but I only go when there's something specific
    that we need. We've had quite a lot of gear in the past decade from
    there and it has all stood up to the rigours well. Once one is
    familiar with the layout of a given store, there's all sorts of short
    cuts available so following the slow herd isn't compulsory and the
    almost-static pushchair caravans can be cut off at the pass.

    I dunno what we'd do without all the IKEA-sourced CD/DVD storage, for a
    start - although I'm just about to make a new storage unit, on the
    basis that the wood has cost 40 quid and I'll take a couple of days to
    turn out a 1.2m wide x 2m high unit that should see us catered for as
    far as DVDs go for another year or so - and the IKEA equivalent(s)
    would have run to 150 or so.

    Having said that, it will be designed and constructed in the style of
    IKEA living room furniture, as I like it - solid, substantial and
    shamelessly functional.
     
    SIRPip, Aug 31, 2010
  9. Donnie

    Jim Guest

    I wonder what people will do when technology progresses past the point
    where we have to build shrines for physical media?
     
    Jim, Aug 31, 2010
  10. Donnie

    SIRPip Guest

    Heh. It was more difficult a couple of years ago, when we had a
    regular poster by the name of Mark Read, to get away with that.
     
    SIRPip, Aug 31, 2010
  11. Donnie

    SIRPip Guest

    Have a fucking great bonfire.

    I like my physical media, anyway. I'll be molishing a shelf for vinyl
    soon, then a plinth for the record player.
     
    SIRPip, Aug 31, 2010
  12. Donnie

    CT Guest

    No, we didn't.
     
    CT, Aug 31, 2010
  13. Donnie

    ogden Guest

    Some futurologist you'd make.

    All my CDs are in boxes in the garage. No idea why I bother keeping the
    hard media at all really - it's all ripped to hard disk and backed up
    periodically to another drive.
     
    ogden, Aug 31, 2010
  14. Donnie

    SIRPip Guest

    ****, no, it was Reid, wasn't it. Oops.
     
    SIRPip, Aug 31, 2010
  15. Donnie

    ogden Guest

    A plinth would be the right place for a museum piece.
     
    ogden, Aug 31, 2010
  16. Donnie

    Jim Guest

    You'll be calling him Chris Troll next.
     
    Jim, Aug 31, 2010
  17. Donnie

    SIRPip Guest

    I know well the name of my idol.
     
    SIRPip, Aug 31, 2010
  18. Donnie

    SIRPip Guest

    Exactly. I'm thinking mahogany and marble. What do you think?
     
    SIRPip, Aug 31, 2010
  19. Donnie

    SIRPip Guest

    The sign of a true sheddie, that - never throw nowt away.
     
    SIRPip, Aug 31, 2010
  20. Donnie

    CT Guest

    And I'm more idle than idol anyway.
     
    CT, Aug 31, 2010
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