Virus Alert

Discussion in 'Texas Bikers' started by Bill Walker, Oct 2, 2003.

  1. Bill Walker

    Bill Walker Guest

    Haven't pinned it down yet, but someone on this newsgroup is sending out a
    virus.. It is called a Welshia Worm and it does cause problems .. From the
    information I can find, the worm is being solicited through another server
    and the initiator is very difficult to track.. Attacking someone's computer
    is kinda like attacking someone's motorcycle.. Only a very cowardly son of a
    bitch would stoop to such a thing.. So.. by definition, the one(s)
    responsible who calls themselves biker(s).. I got serious news for you.. You
    are not a biker(s), you remain what I called you, "A cowardly son of a
    bitch".. Definitely NOT a BIKER.. See you on the road and be careful...

    Your friend in Irving
    Bill Walker
     
    Bill Walker, Oct 2, 2003
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  2. Bill Walker

    fullstate Guest

    Bill -

    I couldn't find any information about this worm on some of the sites.
    Are you sure it's called the Welshia Worm? Spelling maybe?

    Also, unless there is some strange hook in it in conjunction with
    MSOutlookExpress I can't imagine how you would get a virus on the
    group without downloading something.

    Last but not least, the person that spread the virus to you may be
    completely unaware that they did so..... so don't cut off their
    testicles just yet. ;-)




    --Fullstate
     
    fullstate, Oct 2, 2003
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  3. Bill Walker

    mjt Guest

    .... how did you arrive at the conclusion it is someone
    from this group?
    ..
    --
    /// Michael J. Tobler: motorcyclist, surfer, skydiver, \\\
    \\\ and author: "Inside Linux", "C++ HowTo", "C++ Unleashed" ///
    \\\ http://pages.sbcglobal.net/mtobler/mjt_linux_page.html ///
    "If you can count your money, you don't have a billion dollars."
    -- J. Paul Getty
     
    mjt, Oct 2, 2003
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  4. Bill Walker

    Bill Walker Guest

    I may be spelling it wrong...
    It is coming through "Outlook". The virus isn't fatal but it is bothersome.
    You don't have to download it.. When it hits the "inbox", you have got it..
    I never open anything unless I know who and what it is..
    This is true.. My post is just an alert..

    Your friend in Irving
    Bill Walker
     
    Bill Walker, Oct 2, 2003
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  5. Bill Walker

    mjt Guest

    ..... hmmm. i CNP directly from the post to google and
    got the response i posted
    ..
    --
    /// Michael J. Tobler: motorcyclist, surfer, skydiver, \\\
    \\\ and author: "Inside Linux", "C++ HowTo", "C++ Unleashed" ///
    \\\ http://pages.sbcglobal.net/mtobler/mjt_linux_page.html ///
    "All my friends and I are crazy. That's the only thing that
    keeps us sane."
     
    mjt, Oct 2, 2003
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  6. Bill Walker

    Bill Walker Guest

    The virus was identified by "Norton" and it has been eleminated from my
    computer.. My ISP is working on the source which is many different domains
    and senders.. I am given to understand that this virus can be transmitted
    simply by placing a name or address on a list.. That list will initiate and
    the virus will continue from different sources, so that tracking is
    difficult, if not impossible.. Take care..
     
    Bill Walker, Oct 3, 2003
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  7. Bill Walker

    Waco Guest

    I've been infected recently by a virus spread in newsgroups. Maybe here!
    Dunno.
    It's called "qhost-1" and messes up your IP address resolution by creating a
    different hosts file.
    It's easy enough to get rid of however. More info at mcaffee.com.
     
    Waco, Oct 3, 2003
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  8. Bill Walker

    Bart Mauldin Guest

    I don't know if I have it or if I keep getting e-mails because someone on
    here has it. But it is bombarding me with MS update notifiers and notifiers
    of e-mails that have failed to be delivered(even though i didn't send any in
    the first place).

    I also believe it originated here, because I have received several messages
    that were quarrantined due to a virus and the list of e-mails provided on
    these notifications include alot of e-mails I am familiar with only through
    this group.

    But when scanning my files Norton doesn't find anything,and my virus
    definitions are current. So I ASS-U-ME I don't have it.(either that or I'm
    too dense to find it...)
     
    Bart Mauldin, Oct 3, 2003
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  9. Bill Walker

    mjt Guest

    .... yep, use something other than a m$ product :)
    ..
     
    mjt, Oct 3, 2003
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  10. someone who has you in their address book has the virii and it is
    spoofing your address on things it is sending from their system. when
    that stuff bounces, it gets sent back to your address as the originating
    addy on the mailing. it may not even be someone you actually know, it
    could be in a system that harvested your email addy from any number of
    places. there is nothing you can do about that, afaik. using a real
    newsreader and email proggy is a start. a macintosh is usually immune to
    these sorts of attacks as they are usually outlook/M$ exploits, but you
    can't do much about others who use lame proggies and are hosting malware
    with your address in their book. having your email address posted as
    simply as it is leaves you open to such harvesting by spambots that scan
    the web and usenet looking for targets of opportunity.

    and some ppl wonder why i never post an email address in any form...

    --
    jm

    '73 R75/5 Toaster (not for sale)
    '99 R1100RT (in use)
    '00 FLHRCI (sold!)
    Iron Butt Assoc, WATR 3X, EIEIO, AEIOU etc blah blah
     
    another viewer, Oct 3, 2003
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  11. Bill Walker

    Brian Walker Guest

    Hmm...

    He and I are both getting swarms of emails containing viruses (not any
    in particular). I use multiple email accounts from different services
    as does my wife. The only email account getting these virus emails is
    the one which posts here. The email account my Dad is getting them
    from is used to post here. The only commonality the two accounts have
    is they post to tx.motorcycles. My wife isn't getting them and my
    other many accounts aren't getting them. I don't know of anyone else
    here who's getting them.

    We're not talking 1 or two...we're talking several hundred a day.
    Would you care to wager that a certain someone here signed us up for a
    "I'm pissed at you so I'll sign your email up to a mail bomb scheme"?

    The way the emails are set up is quite clever. They're official
    looking "Here's a patch" emails that are large attachments. They come
    in and flood the size of the box. If you open them out of frustration,
    then it's hard to get cleaned up. If you don't, you continue getting
    the enormous emails. That's ok though, I've got enough bandwidth and
    don't use the email they're being sent to anyway. These little things
    work both ways!
     
    Brian Walker, Oct 3, 2003
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  12. Actually its an Active X worm. Luckily it doesn't spread like a virus.
    Basically a popup window came up in internet explorer and executed a
    command. Windows 2000 and XP are effected by it. From what I heard it was
    the Fortune City popup that was taking people to a ev1.net location. Get
    ready for more spam, things like this and the master blaster are only used
    to collect information about your computer usage that this guys sell these
    lists to spammers.
    Also check for MS updates next wednesday (thursday morning). MS does a lot
    of updates releases on wednesday and since this exploit is starting to get
    attacked, MS will have to get a fix for it quickly.
     
    Elmer McKeegan, Oct 3, 2003
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  13. anti-spam: remove the 9 to send me email
    Hmm...

    He and I are both getting swarms of emails containing viruses (not any
    in particular). I use multiple email accounts from different services
    as does my wife. The only email account getting these virus emails is
    the one which posts here. The email account my Dad is getting them
    from is used to post here. The only commonality the two accounts have
    is they post to tx.motorcycles. My wife isn't getting them and my
    other many accounts aren't getting them. I don't know of anyone else
    here who's getting them.

    We're not talking 1 or two...we're talking several hundred a day.
    Would you care to wager that a certain someone here signed us up for a
    "I'm pissed at you so I'll sign your email up to a mail bomb scheme"?

    The way the emails are set up is quite clever. They're official
    looking "Here's a patch" emails that are large attachments. They come
    in and flood the size of the box. If you open them out of frustration,
    then it's hard to get cleaned up. If you don't, you continue getting
    the enormous emails. That's ok though, I've got enough bandwidth and
    don't use the email they're being sent to anyway. These little things
    work both ways![/QUOTE]

    There have been several notices about the MS patch email virus. It seems to
    come and go in spurts. Every so often we get someone calling us about
    getting all these emails and there is nothing we can do. We just tell them
    that someone they know has the virus and is spewing out all these emails.
    Usually the person's computer is running very slow due to all the traffic
    they generate. A couple of weeks ago a different email account of mine was
    getting returned / failed to send messages bounced back to me that I never
    sent. Guess someone I knew was spewing out a virus and they used my email
    address to do it. Oh well, although its a hassle, they eventually get it
    fixed. Like you I have other accounts so I can continue to do my business.
    Although this is the only account I use for the newsgroup, its easier than
    using the google site.
     
    Elmer McKeegan, Oct 3, 2003
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  14. I think it is 'worm-spybot.gen'. A sure sign you're infected is that
    regedit shuts itself down about 2 seconds after you start it. I had to go
    to a backup I had made (Norton Ghost) in August to get rid of it. I kept
    getting 'undeliverable mail' messages for about a week afterward but has
    stopped now. None of the online advice helped, especially since regedit
    wouldn't run.

    Why is bottom posting such a tradition on usenet? I occasionally need to
    refer to the thread's history but not often.
    C. J. Klingman
    Austin, TX
     
    C. J. Klingman, Oct 3, 2003
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  15. Bill Walker

    fullstate Guest

    Someone else on here who is knowledgeable about these types of things
    made mention of a certain type of "attack" which you may have fallen
    victim of.

    It happens when someone else's computer is actually infected with a
    virus (mine for instance) and I happen to have YOUR email address in
    my address book.

    The virus / worm replicates itself by emailing itself out to all the
    people in the address book. But, the crappy thing is that it uses one
    of the addresses in the book to fill in the "from" field of the email
    (your address for instance). Thus, it looks like they are coming from
    you, even though they are really being emailed from my computer.

    The virus will continue to do this as long as the email client is up
    (and some of the newer ones do it by installing their own mail engine,
    isn't that clever?) and the person never knows it's happening.

    The end result to someone such as yourself is that you get flooded
    with returned emails saying you have such-and-such virus even though
    you have NO idea who the original email was sent to. Why? Because
    you didn't send it....someone else did with your return address in the
    field.

    What can you do about? Not much to be honest. You have to look in
    the headers (not just the from and to field) of the original email (if
    attached) and figure out where it's coming from. Then, contact YOUR
    ISP and the ISP of the offending originator and try to get them block
    that email account until that person fixes it. Like I said, they
    probably aren't even aware of it.

    This happened to my folks not too long ago. The downside is that it
    took me forever to get them to understand it wasn't their computer,
    wasn't their email, wasn't their ISP. I lodged multiple complaints
    against the ISP of the originator and it finally stopped.....right
    before my folks changed ISPs. (joke on me?).

    Good luck!

    --Fullstate
     
    fullstate, Oct 3, 2003
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  16. Bill Walker

    Bill Walker Guest

    Top Post for *grins*...

    Perfect weather.. Wanna ride Saturday ?? Let's do it..

    Your friend in Irving
    Bill Walker
     
    Bill Walker, Oct 3, 2003
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  17. Bill Walker

    Waco Guest

    Yes!
     
    Waco, Oct 3, 2003
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  18. Bill Walker

    Bill Walker Guest

    Joe's Coffee Shop.. In Irving at Irving Blvd, between O'Connor and
    MacArthur.. Is that OK.. It is right next to a car wash...???

    Your friend in Irving
    Bill Walker
     
    Bill Walker, Oct 4, 2003
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  19. Bill Walker

    Slammer Guest

    i am also getting the same emails on the account which i use to post here.


    Hmm...

    He and I are both getting swarms of emails containing viruses (not any
    in particular). I use multiple email accounts from different services
    as does my wife. The only email account getting these virus emails is
    the one which posts here. The email account my Dad is getting them
    from is used to post here. The only commonality the two accounts have
    is they post to tx.motorcycles. My wife isn't getting them and my
    other many accounts aren't getting them. I don't know of anyone else
    here who's getting them.

    We're not talking 1 or two...we're talking several hundred a day.
    Would you care to wager that a certain someone here signed us up for a
    "I'm pissed at you so I'll sign your email up to a mail bomb scheme"?

    The way the emails are set up is quite clever. They're official
    looking "Here's a patch" emails that are large attachments. They come
    in and flood the size of the box. If you open them out of frustration,
    then it's hard to get cleaned up. If you don't, you continue getting
    the enormous emails. That's ok though, I've got enough bandwidth and
    don't use the email they're being sent to anyway. These little things
    work both ways![/QUOTE]
     
    Slammer, Oct 4, 2003
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  20. Bill Walker

    Waco Guest

    Time?
     
    Waco, Oct 4, 2003
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