Want a Triumph...

I have just decided, I really want a Triumph Daytona ) - or some model of
(modern) Triumph anyway.
Actually, I tend to be rather sluggish when it comes to getting the stuff I
really wanted in the first place.

Anyone wanna swap for a Cruiser ? Oh well, back to daydreaming and wishful
thinking for me I think !

If I do seriously go for it, any advice on anything particular to avoid with
Daytona's / Triples ?

 

AntonyF says...

Servicing. If the bike is coming up for, or just past, 12,000 miles
check to see if the big service has been done. It can cost upwards of
500 quid, so budget accordingly. You'll need to do an interim service
halfway between every 12,000 one, but these are usually much cheaper as
valve clearances don't need doing.

Aside from that the big triples don't have many issues, but some did
suffer from weak starter clutches which cost about 800 quid to repair.
Never let the battery get too flat, because it's low cranking power that
causes them to fail as they slip out of engagement.

I love my Daytona, it's a real world sports bike. By that I mean a Gixer
Thou or ZX10R is more at home on a track and being caned senseless,
where the Daytona will eat up mile after mile in a more relaxed way but
still be plenty fast enough for any normal person on the road. It's more
GT bike than sports bike, like an Aston Martin DB9 is to a Lamborghini
Diablo.

--
Lozzo
Triumph Daytona 955i SE (Black with added black bits)
Suzuki Bandit 600S (Green with added shit bits)
Yamaha SR250 Delusion (It's "Special")
I ride way too fast to worry about cholestorol.

 

Early T595 Daytona plenty cheap in yellow and there are loads of them
around.

 

You've really learnt to like the triples engine then. Lots of mid range
torque. I think that's why I like the ST so much.

 

eric the brave says...

It's wonderful, can't think why I didn't buy one earlier.

--
Lozzo
Triumph Daytona 955i SE (Black with added black bits)
Suzuki Bandit 600S (Green with added shit bits)
Yamaha SR250 Delusion (It's "Special")
I ride way too fast to worry about cholestorol.

 

I'm fancying a Triumph again.

 

Berluddy Hell! 500 quid. Are they really that difficult to work on?
I was actually browsing Triumphs for sale last night, but perhaps I'll
stick with my Bandit 1200. At least I can maintain that myself at a
reasonable cost.

 

Ken says...

It's 500 quid every 12,000 miles, and that includes fairing removal and
almost half the rest of the front of the bike being stripped to do the
valve clearances. Ok, so a Bandit 1200 may appear easier to work on, but
I'll bet the servicing costs over the same mileage work out about the
same if a dealer does them. If you're doing it yourself then labour
rates don't come into it. Service parts prices are about the same as any
other bike manufacturers.

I've ridden lots of Bandit 1200s, the Daytonas and Speed Triples are far
nicer to ride and own. For a start off they don't dissolve when they see
rain falling 100 miles away and they go round corners without that
'pregnant hippo on acid' feeling.

Anyway, I don't begrudge paying for servicing - or anything else come to
think of it - if I'm enjoying the bike. When I have to think about what
motorcycling costs me I'll hang up my helmet for good.

--
Lozzo
Triumph Daytona 955i SE (Black with added black bits)
Suzuki Bandit 600S (Green with added shit bits)
Yamaha SR250 Delusion (It's "Special")
I ride way too fast to worry about cholestorol.

 

Depends. Are Bandit valve clearances shim or screw/locknut?

If shim, are they under the bucckets or on top? Triumph, I'm assuming,
are on top (they were on my Trophy)

 

The Older Gentleman says...

Bandit adjustment is by screw and locknut, Triumph shims are on top of
buckets and require a special tool to hold the bucket down, but pattern
tools are avalable from t595.net. Shims are a piece of piss to do once
you've done one lot. At least there are only 12 shims to do on a triple
and they don't need doing anywhere near as often as Bandit clearances.

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Lozzo
Triumph Daytona 955i SE (Black with added black bits)
Suzuki Bandit 600S (Green with added shit bits)
Yamaha SR250 Delusion (It's "Special")
I ride way too fast to worry about cholestorol.

 

and it takes a full day to do it. they had mine from 9am and i
couldn't pick it up til 4.30pm.

they gave me a nice R1 to play on for the day though.

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I was out on mine earlier today. Did Skenfrith the long way round with
the SO and BIL. Lovely day for it.

 

Bandit 12 is the same as GSXR100L M models had shim. Early Triumph have
shim on top of bucket but I thought later Triumph's had shim under bucket?

 

eric the brave says...

I'm told the 955 engines are shim on top. I thought the Gixer 1100 went
to shims on the WN watercooled model, the M was oil-cooled and I'm sure
they had screw and locknut.

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Lozzo
Triumph Daytona 955i SE (Black with added black bits)
Suzuki Bandit 600S (Green with added shit bits)
Yamaha SR250 Delusion (It's "Special")
I ride way too fast to worry about cholestorol.

 

Yes but, have you seen the list of things to do at 12,000 mile services?
Like fork oil, head race bearing re-grease, full cable lube, change the
hydraulic fluid, swinging arm pivot re-grease. It's very comprehensive.
If you just want the cheaper version I.E. shims, injector balance, oil +
filter then it's only £150 depending on shim replacement. You still get
your book stamped for the service though.

 

eric the brave <""simonb_at_zapik_dot_co_dot_uk\"@foo.com (eric the

If they slapped enough grease on when building the things, this wouldn't
be necessary.[1]

Oh, please. How many dealers do this? And with teflon-lined cables, it's
actually counter-productive in some cases.

OK, though I can't see that's necessary.

If they fit grease nipples, it's OK, If not, see above.

[1] My Ducati races - lasted four years before they were utterly fecked.
I think Ducati wave a bottle of olive oil at them, and that's it. Dealer
replaced them and used half a tub of grease, it seems, on the new ones.
Which have so far lasted six years.

 

eric the brave says...

I think so.

--
Lozzo
Triumph Daytona 955i SE (Black with added black bits)
Suzuki Bandit 600S (Green with added shit bits)
Yamaha SR250 Delusion (It's "Special")
I ride way too fast to worry about cholestorol.

 

Mine was an M. Was that the last Oil cooled model?

 

I agree, that's why I will just get the shims, and balance done. Do the
rest myself.

 

eric the brave says...

Bah, the last oil/air cooled 1100 was the N model, the watercooled ones
came about in 1993 with the WP. Pretty sure the 1100 stayed screw and
locknut til the watercooling came about though.

--
Lozzo
Triumph Daytona 955i SE (Black with added black bits)
Suzuki Bandit 600S (Green with added shit bits)
Yamaha SR250 Delusion (It's "Special")
I ride way too fast to worry about cholestorol.