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Jesus, that would have been so incredibly handy! And $400aud is only about £190~ Postage might be a bit of an arse mind you... He so needs to get an international distributer, that'd sell by the truck full I reckon (token Aussie word).
Yes and with a lump of wood under he sump yo can have both wheels off the ground. Just another way for bikers to pay way over the odds for something that would cost 1/4 as much if it was for hoising a washing machine, moving a shed or anything else that didn't involve bikes.
Surely a better approach would be to license the design and build it over here? Or... do a patent search and just rip it off if it's not protected.
It has a flaw. Once you set it up for your bike, it won't fit others unless you make new arms. I reckon adjustable and lockable arms are needed so it can be adapted to fit anything
I saw the vid. My point is that 199 quid *isn't* a good price for it, 39.99 is more in keeping with what it really is, it's just that sportsbike pretty boys pay way too much for something the don't need and thus forces the price up for everything to do with bikes. Really, what do you think it's worth? If you didn't know how much bike stuff costs? 29.99?
40 quid buys you a cheap normal paddock stand, an Abba stand costs something like 90 and only lifts the rear via the swingarm pivot. I paid 100 for my workshop stand in 1998 and it's not as simple or quick to use as the Ripperton. I'd quite happily pay 200 for a stand that's easy and quick to use, adjustable for most bikes, lifts both wheels in one go and portable. I can see a market for these in race and trackday paddocks.
You're missing the point. I know what paddock stands and stuff costs but look at what a paddock stand actually is, it's a piece of shaped steel tubing that would cost a fiver if it was a wheelbarrow frame. I'm not disputing how much the stuff is, just how over-priced it is and you've proved my point by saying you'd pay 200 quid for something that's really worth, in monetary terms less than a fifth of that. Fill yer boots, there's plenty of mu^H^H^H out there that will think they need one. I reckon you could apply to Dragon's Den after you've beaten the designer to the patent office
In communiqué <>, Whinging Courier Have you seen the price of steel lately? It always surprises me how much stuff like steel tubing costs if you haven't got access to a 'foreigner' supply, can by in bulk, or source good clean stuff from a scrap yard. When I welded up a cradle to bolt on to my trailer to support and locate the sidecar wheel, the square section tube added up to a surprising total. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pete Fisher at Home: | | Voxan Roadster Gilera Nordwest * 2 Yamaha WR250Z | | Gilera GFR * 2 Moto Morini 2C/375 Morini 350 "Forgotten Error" | +----------------------------------------------------------------+
No, no, no, no, no, no, no... Bike accessories are hugely over-priced and steel tubing is no exception. What Loz is talking about is worth about thirty quid in the real world. The sort of people that will pay 200 quid for that piece of pig iron are living in cloud cuckoo land. A total about 1000% (a thousand) percent cheaper than if you'd bought one at busters or J&S, had one been available.
Whinging Courier wrote: You have a pretty screwed idea of what things are actally worth. The materials alone for that hoist would probably run to 40 quid at least. There's the chanelling, arms, links etc and all of them have to be machined to suit, so add in labour and machining costs, then add in assembly costs, marketing, packaging, and profit. No-one is going to make it for what it cost to make because there's so much more goes into it than what you see as the end result. I think 200 quid is reasonable
In communiqué <>, Whinging Courier Not allowing for my time at my usual rates. I've got to get new wheel support sections for the carrier bolted on to the Octavia towing attachment that we sling the lad's MX bike on. The ones suitable for his KX65 aren't up to the job for the YZ85. I could try welding some up but am happier getting replacements from autowbars. They don't sell enough to use a stack 'em high, sell 'em cheap strategy, so I am prepared to pay the going rate. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pete Fisher at Home: | | Voxan Roadster Gilera Nordwest * 2 Yamaha WR250Z | | Gilera GFR * 2 Moto Morini 2C/375 Morini 350 "Forgotten Error" | +----------------------------------------------------------------+
