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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by steve auvache, Jul 30, 2005.

  1. If I were in the market for a new romper suit, which I ain't, I might
    well be inclined to ask:

    "Who makes Cheggas leathers?"
     
    steve auvache, Jul 30, 2005
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    BigJ Guest

    But Cheggas plays pop surely
     
    BigJ, Jul 30, 2005
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  3. Unless I have entirely misunderstood to whom you refer, the answer is
    "AlpineStars" (see
    http://www.carloscheca.com/pop2.php?foto=./multimedia/97/grande/don07.jpg).

    You might ask, and be told, but on the basis of this information, would
    you buy...? ;-)
     
    Paul Varnsverry, Jul 30, 2005
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  4. steve auvache

    Pip Guest

    Well, fucking Cheggas, obviously.

    Or do you mean: "Who makes Chegga's leathers?" - there's a tiny
    difference, you see.

    In any case - are you referring to Carlos Checa, perchance? Because
    if you are, you might find the answer here:
    http://www.carloscheca.com/

    You thick old ****.

    Of course, you must bear in mind that a lot of brand names that appear
    on such items as GP racers' lids, boots and leathers are not
    neccessarily those of the manufacturer of said item, but rather of the
    sponsor. Allegedly.
     
    Pip, Jul 30, 2005
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  5. Pip wrote
    Some bleedin' foreigner, do I care how he spells his name?
    His skins should be from whoever sewed in the label though surely?
     
    steve auvache, Jul 30, 2005
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  6. Paul Varnsverry wrote
    If abrasion resistance and piss poor fashion sense were me only reasons
    then yes absolutely. Look what we just saw - real life abrasion
    testing, it was a damn good advert for kangaroo skin.


    Mind you they wouldn't have helped him at all if he met a lampost half
    way along would they and I do rather wonder if they would have stayed as
    intact whilst travelling over a raised manhole cover or three?
     
    steve auvache, Jul 30, 2005
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  7. Champ wrote
    Wasn't it?

    I must be getting old because that doesn't actually impress me that
    much, I sort of expect that sort of behaviour from that sort of bloke.
    Well from all blokes really, it is a very blokish thing to do. What
    impresses me is that the team have a complete spare bike ready and
    warmed up and everything. See, that implies forward planning and I am
    totally amazed by people who can do that sort of thing.
     
    steve auvache, Jul 30, 2005
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  8. I've just seen the footage several times on the BBC's MotoGP coverage.
    It isn't often that a racer slides for a distance along the track,
    against the norm of off the track at an acute angle and into the
    "kitty-litter" (witness: Shaky Byrne, Troy Bayliss, etc - but not John
    Hopkins).

    Yes, Checa's suit appeared to stand up to the task very well. I spotted
    some lose material flapping around near his right back waist - possibly
    some lettering or a logo - and plenty of scuffs - but from the brief
    and distant images provided by the footage, no signs of catastrophic
    failure. Would you buy a used suit from this man?

    For mainstream production intended for we mere mortals, the Italian
    manufacturers ordinarily use a leather which is very "dry" by
    comparison to that which appears in the British and other
    manufacturer's suits. It's abrasion resistance is what one might
    expect, because this is related to thickness, but the tear strength is
    reduced - perhaps significantly. The dry fibres lack elasticity and
    therfore shear at a much lower level. In recent tests, two Italian
    brands' suits were found to have tear strength of leather and burst
    strength of seams below that of denim garments!

    The tear strength of these dry Italian hides can be significantly
    improved by treating them with a leather preservative. RiDE magazine
    reported on this when they compared the test performance of a new pair
    of AlpineStars leather trousers with a pair which had been worn - and
    regularly treated - for two years or more.
    Nothing would help very much in the first scenario - apart from putting
    on a Challenger tank, perhaps :) - and I guess we'll just have to
    carry on wondering about the second scenario.
     
    Paul Varnsverry, Jul 31, 2005
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    Ben Guest

    Dunno about Checa's suit, but I'd love to know who makes John Hopkins
    back protector. That was a seriously big highside and he came down
    flat on his back. Bet it's a bi sore tomorrow but he got up and
    walked away fine.
     
    Ben, Jul 31, 2005
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    Ben Guest

    Dunno about Checa's suit, but I'd love to know who makes John Hopkins
    back protector. That was a seriously big highside and he came down
    flat on his back. Bet it's a bi sore tomorrow but he got up and
    walked away fine.
     
    Ben, Jul 31, 2005
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  11. Looks like he's yet another AlpineStars sponsored rider.

    (http://www.hopperracing.com).
     
    Paul Varnsverry, Jul 31, 2005
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  12. Paul Varnsverry wrote
    Really. Is there any reliable info on the type of treatment available
    for us ordinary mortals? Cos if it was Neatsfoot oil me and Ride are
    going to have a falling out.
     
    steve auvache, Jul 31, 2005
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    sweller Guest

    As an aside, it did seem to take an age to get him off the track or at
    least get an ambulance to him.
     
    sweller, Aug 1, 2005
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  14. Rope wrote
    Since always, a founder member I am.
     
    steve auvache, Aug 1, 2005
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    Wik Guest

    Alpinestars again, ITYF. One of these:
    http://www.alpinestars.com/lp/2005ApparelPdfs/protection/protections01.p
    df

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    Wik, Aug 1, 2005
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    Lozzo Guest

    Wik says...
    I'm sorry, but I always break into uncontrollable fits of giggles when
    I see the words "Alpinestars" and "protection" in the same sentence.
    It's the same when I see "Dainese" and "quality", unless the word
    "dubious" is used as well.
     
    Lozzo, Aug 1, 2005
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    Lozzo Guest

    Bear says...
    In all fairness my dislike of the aforementioned manufacturers products
    is long-standing, but my choice of employment in this trade usually
    tempers my enthusiasm to post about them. I've made an exception for
    today because I'm feeling saucy.

    I've dislike Dainese gear since I spent 170 quid on a pair of boots
    that turned out to be utter shite when used for the purpose they had
    been designed for. I then started taking a closer look at their stuff
    and it soon dawned on me that *all* their stuff was utter shite. The
    boots I bought made excellent carpet slippers though. I bought those
    ones in 1997 having previously owned a pair of Dainese race style boots
    back in 1988. The first pair ended up in litter bin in Lyon while on
    holiday, because they were chopping my feet to bits. I did the rest of
    that trip in trainers. I gave the second pair away to a non biking ex-
    girlfriend who occasionally goes pillion with me. They are marginally
    better than trainers.

    My decision to give Dainese gear a second chance was a bad one.

    Oddly enough, I have a pair of Alpinestars Tech4 MX boots and an
    A/stars t-shirt that I really rate, but there's no way I'd ever wear
    their leathers.
     
    Lozzo, Aug 1, 2005
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  18. steve auvache

    Lozzo Guest

    gomez says...
    I rate the t-shirt as better made than their leather suits.
     
    Lozzo, Aug 1, 2005
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  19. Lozzo wrote
    Mine is based upon blind unreasoning prejudice arising from I know not
    where as I have never bought any. Nevertheless I agree.
     
    steve auvache, Aug 1, 2005
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  20. No, it wasn't Neatsfoot oil (cue plaintive cries of "save the Neats"
    from certain ukrm-ers) :). I've just looked at the RiDE issue in
    question (August 2004). "Chelsea" leather food (tel: 01536 464800) is
    quoted. I have no experience of this product, however, so this is not
    an endorsement. Any reputable cream or liquid leather treatment will
    do. I have previously praised Gliptone Liquid Leather, but have also
    been swayed by comments here in ukrm to try Renapur.

    HTH
     
    Paul Varnsverry, Aug 2, 2005
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