Warranty update

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Wicked Uncle Nigel, Oct 2, 2009.

  1. Look, stop pissing about. Go and buy a Kawasaki, they're fucking
    brilliant.

    My 1400GTR was slightly out of warranty when the front disks started
    "pulsing". "Not a problem" said the dealer (Bike Pavilion, of
    Letchworth).

    So, this morning I rode the bike over to them. I wandered upstairs to
    their cafe and had a Full English Breakfast (with very tasty black
    pudding) and a couple of cups of tea. For six quid. I read the paper,
    and then got my keys back. "Take it easy on them for the first 50
    miles".

    Sorted.

    Go and buy a Kawasaki from Bike Pavilion.

    I *do* like it when a manufacturer and a dealer don't piss about, they
    just fix a problem.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Oct 2, 2009
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    SD Guest

    You could always buy a bike that doesn't destroy its brakes in under a
    year.

    Just a thought.
     
    SD, Oct 2, 2009
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    Dave Emerson Guest

    But they made *you pay* for breakfast, in their cafe.
     
    Dave Emerson, Oct 3, 2009
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  4. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, SD
    Two years.

    Report back on that POS Honda at the stage.
    Uh-huh.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Oct 3, 2009
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  5. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Dave Emerson
    In fairness, the cafe bloke was AWOL when I left, so I just left the
    money.

    So they didn't. :^PpPpPpP
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Oct 3, 2009
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    Beav Guest

    A KTM SuperDuke for example. They do it in a matter of minutes but it's the
    owners fault for not washing and drying the brake pads. Apparently.


    --
    Beav

    VN 750
    Zed 1000
    OMF# 19
     
    Beav, Oct 3, 2009
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    Gyp Guest

    OK, I'm on my way. Can someone call T and explain?
     
    Gyp, Oct 3, 2009
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  8. That's cbeause they know SD is watching, and they're hoping he'll wander
    in, which will recoup their costs five times over.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Oct 3, 2009
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    This is where you buy her more cheap earrings, Champ tells her that
    she's ever so lucky to get those earrings and she goes off on one
    isn't it?
     
    Andy Bonwick, Oct 3, 2009
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    Alex Ferrier Guest

    Best not try the 'significant proportion of the
    purchase price' line again. That might save you
    money on a clapped out TDR, but I wouldn't recommend
    it on a new 10r.
     
    Alex Ferrier, Oct 3, 2009
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    Mit Guest

    Cars warp their disks through driver behaviour, namely, keeping the brakes
    applied after stopping from speed. The localised heatsoak through the pads
    makes the disks cool unevenly & warp. Dunno if this applies to bikes but
    can't see why it shouldn't.

    Tim
     
    Mit, Oct 3, 2009
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  12. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Gyp
    Tell her I said it was OK.

    You'll be *fine*.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Oct 3, 2009
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  13. Oh dear. You'd think that would have been known about, common knowledge
    indeed, within the bike design world. Going back umm nearly 30 years,
    BMW discs were notorious for cracking between the holes for exactly the
    same reason. MoT testers knew to look out for it.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Oct 3, 2009
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    Jim Guest

    There's probably a lot more truth in that than you'd think. Warranty
    work is hardly a profit centre but the cafe will be.
     
    Jim, Oct 5, 2009
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    zymurgy Guest

    Are they cooling holes ?

    I can see how a vented disc works (with the holes in a sandwich in
    line with the airflow) but I thought that the drilled discs were
    mostly to keep the pad face clean ?

    Paul.
     
    zymurgy, Oct 5, 2009
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  16. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, zymurgy
    Probably not.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Oct 5, 2009
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    zymurgy Guest

    heh. I'll grant that it does increase the surface area of the disc, so
    radiant-heat wise, possibly.

    Let's call that one a score draw ;-)

    Paul.
     
    zymurgy, Oct 5, 2009
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    Dave Emerson Guest

    Correct. They're to give water (& steam) somewhere to go when braking in
    the wet.

    Bikes in the early 70's with disc brakes would just make a strange noise in
    the wet, with no initial deceleration and then lock-up if the brakes were
    held on - unless you'd already hit the car/truck/child/WHY.

    The culprit was the stainless steel material and was cured by either/or;
    - cast iron discs (Brembo etc) that went rusty
    - chrome-plated cast iron (Triumph, Norton?) that wore through the plating
    in the swept area
    - slots/holes
    - new pad materials, e.g. sintered

    It was a combination of the last two that worked best and is now standard.
     
    Dave Emerson, Oct 5, 2009
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