Water-cooled leather jacket ?

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by sarcasmatron, Sep 16, 2004.

  1. sarcasmatron

    Mad Biker Guest

    where does one accually go to get a patent?
    Mad Biker, Sep 17, 2004
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  2. I use a 661 pressure suit, one of those armour things with all the bits in
    place, wear a long sleeve t-shirt over the top, job done. cool and
    pair drag jeans bike boots and away we go.

    Mick Chester
    Baileyana Embroidery, Sep 18, 2004
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    Nev.. Guest

    I found a copy on DVD going cheap in a shop last week and bought it because
    I'd never seen the movie. I thought trading the white jacket for a patch
    jacket but keeping the point duty gloves was a very nice touch.

    '03 ZX12R
    Nev.., Sep 18, 2004
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    Nev.. Guest

    At the motorcycle expo last week there was a fellow selling (among other
    things) vests which you soak in water, wring out, then wear under your normal
    jacket, they looked just like a zip out jacket liner. Specially designed so
    he said with particular materials which will absorb and hold in the water
    longer. Sounded like a good idea, until I asked for the price. $199!!!

    '03 ZX12R
    Nev.., Sep 18, 2004
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    Uncle Bully Guest

    Low gravity. There's no such thing as zero gravity (at least not outside of
    the abstract).
    Uncle Bully, Sep 18, 2004
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    TB Guest

    Hey.. that's not for comfort.. That's for extra pain!

    TB, Sep 18, 2004
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    Moike Guest

    The patent office.

    Moike, Sep 19, 2004
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    Moike Guest

    But your idea is not patentable.

    Once you have disclosed it in a public forum, it cannot be patented. By

    (assuming, of course that someone else hasn't already invented it and
    patented it)

    see http://www.ipaustralia.gov.au/patents/what_index.shtml for a run down.

    Inventions and Innovations get patented.

    If you build one a particular way, you can register the design.

    Copyright protects the form of expression of an idea, but not the idea.
    So you might have copyright in the words you have used to describe
    you idea for an invention, but copyright does not cover the idea.

    Moike, Sep 19, 2004
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    Moike Guest


    Patents protect inventions or innovations.

    Designs can be registered.

    Trademark registration is separate.

    You might invent an electrostatic razor, and separately redister a
    particular design for one, and register "Zaprazor" as a trademark for
    your business.

    I might claim copyright in this particular piece of fiction.

    All different things.

    Moike, Sep 19, 2004
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    Mad Biker Guest

    like the sony walkman and discman, the rest are portable
    Mad Biker, Sep 19, 2004
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    Matt Palmer Guest

    FuTAnT is of the opinion:
    I was thinking more the cooling fins (which will have to be of some sort of
    rigid material to ensure they stay separated) and the pump itself.
    Alternately, I'd like to see your plans for a pump and powerplant made
    entirely from water and soft PVC.

    - Matt
    Matt Palmer, Sep 20, 2004
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    sharkey Guest

    Pair of soft PVC bladders, one under each buttock. Valves connecting
    them. Every time you shift your bodyweight, it'll move fluid from
    one side to the other, pumping it around. Use four chambers for
    a double-sided pump, one to send fluid around the body and one
    to send it out to some kind of organ for cooling ... hmmm.

    (Getting enough compression to make a working heat pump would
    be very difficult, mind you ... and take a lot of bouncing up
    and down to make it work. Thermodynamics would be bound to
    catch up with you eventually ...)

    It's amazing the things you can make with meat. Although I read
    somewhere that they're developing new artificial hearts based on
    turbopumps, more efficient that way. Would be odd not having a
    pulse at all, though ...

    sharkey, Sep 20, 2004
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    barry taylor Guest

    or you could always have a good read at
    and work out how to make your bike air conditioned


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    ICQ # 21309897 Yahoo: taylorbj2000
    AIM: ursus australis
    A file that big?
    It might be very useful.
    But now it is gone
    barry taylor, Sep 20, 2004
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    i-Central Guest

    We water cool computers all the time.
    It wouldn't be too hard to set up a jacket.
    I saw some links where NASA did a helmet.
    If you're serious then email me troy at i-central.com.au
    We'll put something together.
    How to power the pump will be the challenge.
    Ideally you'd just plug it into a cigarette lighter.
    I have a cigarette lighter to USB convertor.
    How hard would it be to install a lighter ?
    I'll start looking 4 a USB pump.
    Apparently there's a small one in this :
    I have heaps of these things - so I'll rip one apart tonight.
    Anyone know where to find a large one ?
    i-Central, Oct 19, 2004
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    Ian Guest

    Yep its all feasible. I recently saw water cooled suits for work in a brick
    furnace. The furnace had been shut down for a couple of days but was still
    300 degC+. The suits had their own water and air supply. Water tends to be
    too heavy for a full suit so chilled air is more effective. The important
    part is to get the wall thickness of the cooling tubes sufficiently narrow
    to ensure good thermal conductivity and a good surface area of tubes. This
    means a high flow resistance and hence a reasonable pressure (not
    necessarily flow) pump. The most effective area for cooling is under the
    arms and the top of the back since these are the most vascular
    Ian, Oct 20, 2004
  16. Wouldn't it be easier to use one of those pumps they use in cars for the
    windscreen washers? They're only about the size of a D cell battery, plus
    they're the same voltage as a cigarette lighter anyway.

    I don't know much about bikes and biker's aparrel, but wouldn't it be much
    less complicated to just use a different material which offerred the same
    protection as a leather jacket but was breathable at the same time? I'm sure
    that kind of thing exists.

    My 2c anyhow...

    - Andy
    Andrew La'Brooy, Oct 21, 2004
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    Mad Biker Guest

    well ifi i get off my arse ill build one my self

    out of some 5mm pvc tubing, sewn into a singo.

    powered via a cigi socket, which is just 2 wires and a fuse connected to
    your battery. pretty simple..

    yes a wind screen washer motor, a buck at most wreckers. and have it dump
    into some kind of container where the fluid can cool down.

    IM sure it wont be purfect..
    Mad Biker, Oct 22, 2004
  18. Windscreen motors aren't that good as they are only designed for short
    duration use. Need something designed for constant use like PC pumps .
    Zaphod Beeblebrox, Oct 22, 2004
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    Mad Biker Guest

    im sure you could find a small water pump that would be a lot cheeper than
    something made for computers and usb..
    Mad Biker, Oct 23, 2004
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    Charmayne Guest

    You could also try a little water pump from one of those indoor water
    features that are so popular these days.

    You can usually pick one up at the warehouse for around $5.00.

    Just a thought

    Charmayne, Oct 23, 2004
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