Waterproof gear that actually is?

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by MrBonk, Dec 22, 2004.

  1. MrBonk

    MrBonk Guest

    This morning I discovered, to my dismay (but not really my surprise)
    that my ancient waterproof gear isn't exactly waterproof anymore. I've
    got one of the old Dri-Rider 'Tour Master' jackets (basically a
    rubber-lined nylon coat) and a *really* old pair of Dent 'Thinsulate'
    gloves. On the way to work this morning (30mins of 100kph highway
    riding in moderate/heavy rain), the jacket leaked badly at the shoulder
    seams and the gloves leaked pretty much everywhere :-( My nice new
    Sidi boots were still nice and dry inside though....I'm glad I forked
    out the extra for the 'Tepor®' lined ones now! Interestingly enough,
    my Ventura bag, which from memory made absolutely no claim whatsoever
    about being waterproof, also remained perfectly dry inside.

    So, anyway, I'm in the market for some new wet weather gear. I have
    another issue though......my leather jacket is now much too large for
    me (I was a fat bastard when I got it years and years ago) and when I
    remove the zip-out liner for summer, it positively swims on me. With
    that in mind, I'm wondering what jackets are available that serve both
    purposes. I recall seeing a 'storm guard' (or something.....) jacket
    that looked like it was made from very heavy nylon type material but it
    had pockets for removeable armour etc. It claimed to be 100%
    waterproof. What are these kinds of jackets like for warmth in Winter
    or cooling in Summer though? My old dri-rider is a veritable sauna in
    Summer.....sweat like a pig in it.

    What about waterproof gloves? Do they exist? What's good and what's
    not?

    Thanks,
    MrBonk
    www.mrbonk.com
     
    MrBonk, Dec 22, 2004
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    mike Guest

    Hardware store rubber gloves over your ordinary gloves are a great way to go
    I reckon. Cost bugger all, scrunch up and fit under the seat easy, and
    totally waterproof and opposed to some quite expensive goretex numbers I
    could mention (that's why I bought the rubber gloves, honest :)
     
    mike, Dec 23, 2004
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    sharkey Guest

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    I just bought an orange/silver/black one in 56/46 2XL ... whereas my
    old Dririder was a 52/42 L ... they're about the same size.

    Looks like the goods for the sort of riding I like to do, fits okay over
    hard body armour for off-road adventuring. I didn't buy the extras
    pack as I've already got the armour and a camelback, and the camelback
    bladder fits the Dririder just fine.

    Haven't got to try it out ... it's still under the Christmas
    tree and the bike ain't working yet!

    -----sharks
     
    sharkey, Dec 23, 2004
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    glitch1 Guest

    glitch1, Dec 23, 2004
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  5. MrBonk

    glitch1 Guest


    Yeah, they seem to be "undersized" a bit. Also had to add one more "X" to
    the "L" here, or 56 to the normal 54 to get the thermal liner in.
    cheers
    pete
     
    glitch1, Dec 23, 2004
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  6. MrBonk

    glitch1 Guest

    DriRider is also coming up with a RallyCross glove soon, don't know if
    they're supposed to be "waterproof" or not, being a multi-layer mesh/
    leather combo glove.
    Will have a pair soon and do more "testing".
    There's also pants of the same series coming in Feb next year.
    cheers
    pete
     
    glitch1, Dec 23, 2004
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  7. They aren't even a little waterproof if the liner is rolled up and inside
    the rear storage pocket *ahem*. :)
    Just too lazy to stop and refit it while trying to beat a thunderstorm home
    from the eastern suburbs this afternoon (I don't doubt its effectiveness
    once the liner has been refitted).
    I'm definitely happy with the airflow in hot weather though--much better
    than my lightest leather jacket (an old thin Walden Miller item).
    Al Pennykid seems pretty happy with his Rallycross too.

    Slightly Damp Postman Pat
     
    Pat Heslewood, Dec 24, 2004
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  8. MrBonk

    TB Guest

    This morning I discovered, to my dismay (but not really my surprise)
    that my ancient waterproof gear isn't exactly waterproof anymore. I've
    got one of the old Dri-Rider 'Tour Master' jackets (basically a
    rubber-lined nylon coat) and a *really* old pair of Dent 'Thinsulate'
    gloves. On the way to work this morning (30mins of 100kph highway
    riding in moderate/heavy rain), the jacket leaked badly at the shoulder
    seams and the gloves leaked pretty much everywhere :-( My nice new
    Sidi boots were still nice and dry inside though....I'm glad I forked
    out the extra for the 'Tepor®' lined ones now! Interestingly enough,
    my Ventura bag, which from memory made absolutely no claim whatsoever
    about being waterproof, also remained perfectly dry inside.

    So, anyway, I'm in the market for some new wet weather gear. I have
    another issue though......my leather jacket is now much too large for
    me (I was a fat bastard when I got it years and years ago) and when I
    remove the zip-out liner for summer, it positively swims on me. With
    that in mind, I'm wondering what jackets are available that serve both
    purposes. I recall seeing a 'storm guard' (or something.....) jacket
    that looked like it was made from very heavy nylon type material but it
    had pockets for removeable armour etc. It claimed to be 100%
    waterproof. What are these kinds of jackets like for warmth in Winter
    or cooling in Summer though? My old dri-rider is a veritable sauna in
    Summer.....sweat like a pig in it.

    What about waterproof gloves? Do they exist? What's good and what's
    not?

    I wear Dririder waterproof overalls, a good neck sock/balaclava and
    overboots. Sucks about the drenched gloves but haven't discovered an
    alternative yet. I can say from experience that the combination works quite
    well

    TB
     
    TB, Dec 24, 2004
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    Dr.Shifty Guest

    I bought a DriRider DriMesh jacket a year to two ago - when they first came
    out. It is cool enough when riding but standing still on a hot day, at
    petrol pump or traffic etc, it still roasts me. I'm thinking of spraying
    the upper body parts of it in silver or white to try to get it cooler.

    The waterproof liner is soft-touch plastic and the damp feel of it against
    my bare skin gives me the creeps. This means I need a long sleeve t-shirt.
    Most people wont worry about this, prolly just my personal stuff getting
    the best of me. There is no flap over the zipper, and the liner does not
    cover the 2 inches each side of the zipper, so the water leaks through the
    front very quickly. I give it about 20km in normal rain and I am feeling
    wet inside. Heavy summer rain and give it 10 kms, or 5...... So it needs a
    garbage bag or something underneath the front.

    The elastic loops which hold the liner sleeves to the wrist points busted
    in the first week. Both sides. They busted trying to get it off while damp
    and the liner stuck to my skin and wouldn't release. The dealer got it
    repaired locally I think, rather than send it back.

    It also has no waterproof pocket. This seems forgetful of them, considering
    it has a waterproof liner. Things like wallet/watch etc have no dry place
    unless in tank bag etc.

    And for waterproofing leather gloves try Nikwax TX10 products. This is an
    English company and I have used their fabric proofing stuff for many years.
    They make a line of leather proofing sprays for saddles and riding boots
    etc. he ad that took my attention while I was living in the UK was of a guy
    floating on a mill pold in his sleeping bag. One of their leather sprays
    (which I have not tried) sprays onto already wet boots and when they dry
    out they are then waterproof.

    Kim
     
    Dr.Shifty, Dec 24, 2004
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    sharkey Guest

    What, so so far that's Glitch1, Pat, Al, me all with these goddamn
    Rallycross jackets! Next thing you know we'll all rush out and
    buy BMWs ...

    -----sharks
     
    sharkey, Dec 25, 2004
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  11. MrBonk

    sharkey Guest

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    then poke holes in top.
    Return to oven and bake for 30 minutes, or until pie crust is golden brown.



    Sudden Infant Death Soup

    SIDS: delicious in winter, comparable to old fashioned Beef and Vegetable Soup.
    Its free, you can sell the crib, baby clothes, toys, stroller... and so easy to
    procure if such a lucky find is at hand (just pick him up from the crib and
    he?s good to go)!

    SIDS victim, cleaned
    ½ cup cooking oil
    Carrots
    onions
    broccoli
    whole cabbage
    fresh green beans
    potato
    turnip
    celery
    tomato
    ½ stick butter
    1 cup cooked pasta (macaroni, shells, etc.)

    Remove as much meat as possible, cube, and brown in hot oil.
    Add a little water, season, then add the carcass.
    Simmer for half an hour keeping the stock thick.
    Remove the carcass and add the vegetables slowly to the stock,
    so that it remains boiling the whole time.
    Cover the pot and simmer till vegetables are tender
    (2 hours approximately).
    Continue seasoning to taste.
    Before serving, add butter and pasta,
    serve piping with hot bread and butter.



    Offspring Rolls

    Similar to Vietnamese style fried rolls, they have lots of meat
    (of course this can consist of chicken, beef, pork, or shrimp).
    Who can resist this classic appetizer; or light lunch served with
    a fresh salad? Versatility is probably this recipe?s greatest virtue,
    as one can use the best part of a prime, rare, yearling, or the
    morticians occasional horror: a small miracle stopped short by a
    drunk driver, or the innocent victim of a drive-by shooting...

    2 cups finely chopped very young human flesh
    1 cup shredded cabbage
    1 cup bean sprouts
    5 sprigs green onion, finely chopped
    5 cloves minced garlic
    4-6 ounces bamboo shoots
    Sherry
    chicken broth
    oil for deep frying (1 gallon)
    Salt
    pepper
    soy & teriyaki
     
    sharkey, Dec 25, 2004
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  12. MrBonk

    sharkey Guest

    Well, that's as fake as a $3 bill. Ditto the posts not from Coney.

    the 'Followup-To: news.admin.net-abuse.email' suggests someone is
    attacking nanae by trying to flood it with outraged responses to
    this idiotic troll.

    End of Usenet. News at 11.

    -----sharks
     
    sharkey, Dec 25, 2004
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  13. MrBonk

    diode Guest

    I bought a rallycross jacket too,
    Wearing the mesh jacket only can get air flowing through at a walking pace.
    Stinking hot day, go for a ride because you can. Got the road to yourself.

    The waterproof liner works well.
    It got tested it in one of those freak downpours we had in early Dec.
    One note for when it bucketing.
    The mesh outer holds water and it flows down your arms and into your gloves.
    So tuck the cuffs of the gloves under the elastic of the waterproof liner.

    Thanks for the tip on extending the collar of the liner up around your neck
    and under your helmet. Nice one.
    Ben.
     
    diode, Dec 26, 2004
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    Gary Woodman Guest

    Plastic handguards, as seen on dirt bikes and certain off-road BMWs (and
    mine :) are as good as many gloves for keeping rain and spray off your
    hands. Zebee does a good line in milk bottles and hose clamps, if your
    bike is... uh... past its prime. An R100RS is better than a rainsuit, but
    some would consider that overkill.

    Gary (the fools)
     
    Gary Woodman, Dec 29, 2004
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