weird

Then you're just not paying attention.
Early 80s is 2 series of motors ago.
A Shovelhead with a 4 speed.
Then came the Evo, then the 5 speed, then the 88 inch Twin CXam then
the 96 incher with the 6 speed. All reaonably easily distinguishable.

There are several indicators for each model although the parts are
almost all interchangeable between modls in a family.
Dynas have external rear springs, Softails have hidden shocks and a
triangular rear frame.
FL style Softails have the touring style front end. That's the Fat
Boy, Heritage and Deluxe.
The Fat Boy has a fat rear tire, the Heritage has a windshield and
studded bags and the Deluxe has a nostalgia style seat and whitewalls.
It's easy if you take interest.
Unless the heads are changed you can't tell the big bore kit from
stock.

Pretty much within a few years.
Colours occasionally give it away but other differences are small.
I can quickly tell what year an Ultra Classic is from 2003 onwards.
'03 had a 130 rear tire and anniversary colours.
'04 had a 140 back tire
'05 had vented lower fairings.
'06 had the Harmon Kardon stereo
'07 had the 96" and 6 speed with O2 sensors
'08 hade the 6 gallon tank and redesigned seat
'09 had the new frame, 180 rear tire and 2:1:2 exhaust
'10 had the mini sensors and an improved fuel filler.

There are similar differences in most of the models.

They are all designed as a palette.
The bike is a downpayment on the accessories.

Bob

 

Who, Sir, me, Sir?

That's likely to be the problem.

 

J.R. of the Dago parish owns a Buell and a happy bunny he is. He had
Japanese and Italian sportbikes before, no Harley believer.

I remember some British magazine (front page spotted in airport shop) saying
the Buell was the finest sportsbike for twisty roads, is it possible?

 

I know owners of it, they are happy.

I may be mistaken, but I think the engine is some old version of the Suzuki
650 twin as seen in early SV's
<googles>
Yes it is.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/picturegalleries/2757484/Hyosung-GV650-Aquila.html

 

Don't believe all you read, it's not a Hyosung built derivative of the
SV motor, it's an inferior rip-off of it. The Suzuki engine is better
in all respects

--
Lozzo
Versys 650 Tourer, CBR600F-W racebike in the making, TS250C, RD400F
(somewhere)
BMW E46 318iSE (it's a car, not one of those 2-wheeled pieces of shite
they churn out)

 

Hehe, Softails, built to look like a hardtail. Still makes me laugh.

 

Hyosung would like you to think it's a revamped SV motor, but when you
look closely they are nothing like each other. It's like saying a GM
made 5 litre V8 is a derivative of a Ford 5 litre V8, all they share is
the engine configuration and capacity. All the big four Japanese
manufacturers use an inline watercooled four cylinder engine with 16
valves, but none of them are derived from anyone else's. The similarity
between the SV and Hyosung engines stops at the fact that both are
650cc V-twins, nothing is interchangeable between the two. They may as
well have said the Hyosung is a derivative of the Honda Deauville
engine, because that's a 650 V-twin too.


--
Lozzo
Versys 650 Tourer, CBR600F-W racebike in the making, TS250C, RD400F
(somewhere)
BMW E46 318iSE (it's a car, not one of those 2-wheeled pieces of shite
they churn out)

 

Where R&D follows the emerging market tradition of buying a high volume
product from an established manufacturer, making an approximation using
cheaper labour and cheaper materials and having minimal infrastructure in
the marketplace.

 

The latter. I knew Hyosung had built Suzukis under licence in previous
years, but the 650 V-twin engine is all their own and not as good as
the SV's. Suzuki didn't have any input into it. Since Hyosung became a
semi-major player in the Far East markets developing and producing
their own range in competition with everyone else, Suzuki haven't had
any input into Hyosung's development plans.

That'll be utter bollocks, VINs are particular to the bike and when
registered they show as the vehicle that appears on the registration
document. No-one is to know if that particular VIN belongs to an
obscure prototype Suzuki or whether it belongs at an Itchyfanny, all
that appears on a check is the registered manufacturer, and that
happens the world over, it's why the VIN 17 digit system was developed
and introduced.



--
Lozzo
Versys 650 Tourer, CBR600F-W racebike in the making, TS250C, RD400F
(somewhere)
BMW E46 318iSE (it's a car, not one of those 2-wheeled pieces of shite
they churn out)

 

Well, Triumph hides its fuel injectors in fake carburetors. Whatchagonna
do? There are folks who like the retro look.

 

Call it old version or rip-off, I never meant it was the same

But anyway, it is a good choice for tight budgets dreaming of a cruiser. Not
much engine is needed for cruising at 60mph...

 

You need to tell Hardly Ableson this.

--
Lozzo
Versys 650 Tourer, CBR600F-W racebike in the making, TS250C, RD400F
(somewhere)
BMW E46 318iSE (it's a car, not one of those 2-wheeled pieces of shite
they churn out)

 

There are other Korean makers producing olf Japanese technology. There was
(in Spain) a Galloper brand that recently made and sold the old Mitsubishi
Pajero [1] at a cheaper price. So it makes sense a similar thing happens in
motorcycling too.

This is a comparison of the sports 650 twin of Hyosung and the more modern
SV650, worth reading.
http://www.motorcycle.com/shoot-outs/hyosung-gt650-vs-suzuki-sv650-14284.html

[1] Known as "Montero" in Spain, as a "pajero" is a wanker.

 

<hears bells ringing>

 

How the hell do Americans deal with pounds and ounces. Just how heavy is 410
pounds any way. Are they going to be joining the real world soon with this
newfangled, fearsomely logical, metric system.

No!

But why is measurement of things such a deeply ingrained thing in the human
psyche.

Ask yourself this. How tall am I?

 

Just divide by 14 to get stones or 2.2 to get them fancy kilos.
We dont need fancy French measurements, we are BRITISH.

Five feet six and shrinking.

 

Damn! Thats an improvement over my condition. I'm five feet six and
roundening. I think it's the beer.

 

is there much work for a weeble in Turkey?

 

Top of the head two people.

181 cm

 

Ah! Youngsters these days.