Well, at last they've given up with the lies...

Should two pensioners sharing a home pay double the tax of a single
person living next door or should the tax be based on the size of the
house?

Council tax (under any name) can only be based on either the value of
the property or the number of people living in it. Once the level of
taxation is decided then it's up to the government to decide what
level of subsidies can be offered and how to means test people
claiming them.

I don't think it's fair on others to be expected to subsidise a
pensioner who chooses to carry on living in a 5 bedroomed house
(extreme example) rather than move to a smaller property where they
can afford to pay their bills.

 

Yep. I was surprised at some of the people I knew who came out the
closet as flag-waving cunts. Brainless wankers, at least on this
occasion.
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Dave
GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

"A scone and tea at half past three
Makes the day a little brighter
Keep your cakes and fancy tarts
And stick them up your shiter."

 

Christ, that's like, "I bet the Fuhrer doesn't know about this", much
spouted in Nazi Germany. It's something when even Jim Callaghan took
steps to deter the Argies and Thatcher didn't. Are we meant to believe
she was so inept that she didn't know about and couldn't make sure of
the Falklands situation? I should coco; one thin she was not, and that
was incompetent.
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Dave
GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

"A scone and tea at half past three
Makes the day a little brighter
Keep your cakes and fancy tarts
And stick them up your shiter."

 

You really are a bit of a ****, you know that?
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Dave
GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

"A scone and tea at half past three
Makes the day a little brighter
Keep your cakes and fancy tarts
And stick them up your shiter."

 

She should get a lodger in.
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Dave
GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

"A scone and tea at half past three
Makes the day a little brighter
Keep your cakes and fancy tarts
And stick them up your shiter."

 

And lots of people claiming the WTC was engineered by the Yanks.

It's not jingoism.

 

It should be based on ability to pay, the house you live in often
bears little relation to that.

There are fairer ways than the property value at some fixed point in
the past. Property based values make no allowance for the pauper in a
large property or the millionaire in studio apartment.

There we will disagree, why should someone be forced to move, possibly
away from family/friends etc and in the process lose money to
solicitors, removals and taxation in the form of stamp duty. The
council tax is a badly designed tax, the poll tax had better aims but
still took no account of ability to pay.

 

Um, yes, surely that's the point of the Tube? ;-)

 

I was there.

 

They'd also be using less of the services being funded.

I wonder how that could be, when a childless couple in a council flat
would have been paying substantially less than a family with children
over 16 in a large detached home...

 

Indeed. The demolition of the Twin Towers was engineered by Top Gear.

 

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I hate the bitch but I don't think she actually encouraged Argentina
to invade so that she could send the troops in as a vote catcher.
That's just too stupid a game for even the most desperate person to
play.

If you want another clue as to why she had a lot of supporters then
study the figures in the link below.


http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/stats/tax_structure/incometaxrates_1974to1990.pdf

 

Ooh. Some other time, as I'm busy Saturday and it's the Pioneer Run on
Sunday.

 

And two poor childless people living in a two-up two-down paid
substantially less than a rich family living in an eight-bedroom house
in Islington.

I dunno.

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique,

I don't want to be subsidised, I'm happy to pay my way.

I'd just like that to be universal.

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique,

"You've paid for them".

 

Nice.

 

What, every single individual paying their way, regardless of age,
infirmity or disability? Kids down the pit at 12, and wrinklies off to
the workhouse if they have no savings?

Even if you restrict your modest proposal to people of working age, that
still leaves the genuinely chronically sick or disabled, and would
require a zero unemployment rate. Still, no doubt you have the answer
for that - euthanasia for mongs, a freeze on immigration, and a
compulsory job creation scheme to put the work shy to good use cutting
public open space grass with nail scissors.

<See Champ, I can do sarcastic>


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How much do you estimate that you've had out of the 'system' over the
last 12 months? Obviously there's the treatment for being a sugar
mong, the treatment for injuries after your accident plus anything
else.

I haven't been near a doctor in the same period of time yet I still
have to pay the maximum contribution and I'd guess that I earn
significantly less than you do. How the **** is that fair?

 

Excellent, and so true.

Actually, Bear has flown the coop for the moment.