Well done you frogs!

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Paul Carmichael, May 6, 2007.

  1. Well of course they wouldn't, Des is a troll. The Des baiters see no
    further than the From line and start having hissy fits the moment he
    posts no matter what the content and despite saying how much they
    despise and ignore him start pointing out huge great lists of links to
    stuff that he has said and all the sensible folks have long since
    stopped laughing and gone for a ride in the sunshine (and occasional
    showers).

    I think it is all rather amusing, in a Noel Coward smoking jacket and
    glass of whisky kind of a way and that includes those who rise to him.
     
    steve auvache, May 17, 2007
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  2. You _wish_.
    someone who doesn't know the meaning of the adverb 'imperfectly'.

    Feel stupid ? You should.
    I'd hope not. Your attempt to get attention by starting crossposts, has
    'clogged up' with crossposts from idiotic Americans who have nothing
    better to do with their time than stalk me across Usenet.

    You can seek to talk your way around it all you want, but you tried to
    look clever, and ended up looking like a prize fuckwit. I'm not
    responsible for those threads; you are.

    You fucking twat.

    D.
     
    des_just_passing_through, May 17, 2007
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  3. I have trolled in the past, like everyone here. But not since I came
    back.

    HTH.

    D.
     
    des_just_passing_through, May 17, 2007
  4. I agree you have been good but it is almost instinctive with you so you
    have a little way to go yet.

    I do note though that your mate from another planet, in fact all of
    aadp, do seem to have seen a subtly different Des from us, which makes
    me laugh.
     
    steve auvache, May 17, 2007
  5. I keep telling people that they shouldn't confuse what I write here, and
    what I'm like IRL. If I can project two different personæ on two
    different newsgroups, then I'm either good at being someone 'different',
    or else I'm a schizophrenic basket case.

    What makes _me_ laugh, are the fuckwits here who allow words written on
    a screen to get to them to the extent that their replies to me and posts
    about me, cross the 'boundary' from Usenet 'annoyance', to something
    resembling real-life anger and invective. One poster even threatened me
    with physical violence if I ever came near him. I mean like, for
    _fuck's_ sake!

    D.
     
    des_just_passing_through, May 17, 2007
  6. Feedlines 'R Us.
     
    steve auvache, May 17, 2007
  7. Paul Carmichael

    Hog Guest

    Time you two got a bedroom it seems. You do have the video gear after all.
     
    Hog, May 17, 2007
  8. Paul Carmichael

    Ferger Guest

    Bear secured a place in history by writing:
    Yeah, OK. I was getting really excited at the prospect of my first nntp
    death-threat for a decade, but I don't think I'm going to get one now,
    because Des keeps jumping in and stealing PV's focus.
    I know, I know..
    No thanks, if it's all the same - I have enough of Des' measure not to need
    to bother :)
     
    Ferger, May 17, 2007
  9. I _was_ actually being serious.

    *sigh*

    D.
     
    des_just_passing_through, May 17, 2007
  10. Poor Bullshit Bear, needs what's called 'a clue', and the maturity to
    grasp that one doesn't necessarily put one's true 'profile' on a
    newsgroup where death threats are common, and where civility has long
    ago become a 'nasty' word.

    D.
     
    des_just_passing_through, May 17, 2007
  11. Thank the lord for lens caps and the occasional bout of forgetfulness I
    say
     
    steve auvache, May 17, 2007
  12. For once, we're in complete agreement.

    D.
     
    des_just_passing_through, May 17, 2007
  13. It's intentional. Five years or so ago, PV was being feted as some sort
    of 'ordinary' poster. We even had one arsehole call him 'articulate',
    for ****'s sake. There were only four of us who'd seen through his
    'façade of erudition', and our reward for going after the ****, was to
    be killfiled and insulted by some otherwise reasonable people on AADP.
    Two posters still current on AADP in particular, sucked up to him when
    he was getting mauled by even our lowliest of human flotsam. The result
    is that he stuck around, but allowed me to get to him to such an extent
    that he made death threats against me, and created half a dozen or so
    'stalker' websites with my name on them.

    I decided then that even if the cost was that I was killfiled by all of
    AADP, I'd expose Noles and not give him a moment's rest. The cost has,
    unsurprisingly enough, that I _am_ in a good number of posters'
    killfiles, but the benefit is that my goading Noles has made his mask
    'slip', and he is now i) insane, ii) recognised as such, and iii)
    recognised by one and all as a racist, anti-Semitic, uneducated,
    dishonest forger and white supremacist netkook.

    I call that a price worth paying.

    D.

    PS as per TOG's post of this morning, I shall henceforth direct
    follow-ups to AADP
     
    des_just_passing_through, May 17, 2007
  14. Heh .. .can I use that ?
    You ain't seen nothing yet. http://www.nizkor.org/ That site's
    webmaster posts to AADP sometimes, and is (naturally enough) Jewish.
    Noles asked him to choose whether he was 'for "desi" [sic] or against
    him', and when Mr McVay refuse, Noles called _him_ a Nazi.

    This should give you an idea of the monstrous cretin with whom we are
    dealing on AADP.

    D.
     
    des_just_passing_through, May 17, 2007
  15. Paul Carmichael

    Dan White Guest

    message
    To be fair, all I've seen *this* time is you responding to the illiterate
    sex-obsessed septic.

    I have to say, the fact that you both refer to the other as a Nazi is making
    me giggle a bit - I mean, surely you would have met at the meetings or
    something...

    The fact that it would make you a Jewish Nazi doesn't seem to have even
    caused a twitch on the Irony 'O' Matic across the pond. But then they don't
    *do* irony, do they? :)
     
    Dan White, May 17, 2007
  16. Paul Carmichael

    Dan White Guest

    message
    Feel free. He seems quite content to select words at random from a paragraph
    and string them into completely new sentance, so why not respond with an
    actual quote.

    Hardly surprising, he strikes me as the sort of chap who thinks a
    concentration camp was a German summer school...
     
    Dan White, May 17, 2007
  17. He does that all the time on AADP.
    The 'Jewish' thing for him, has become something of an obsession. As
    stated, I rarely if ever mentioned it in here, but never made a secret
    of it on AADP. Very early on in that newsgroup's existence, a British
    neo-Nazi called William Grüber (he has convictions for assault and
    embezzlement in the UK, and changed his second name to Grosvenor upon
    arrival in Canada), now living in Edmonton, Alberta, latched onto me.
    When I made the error of mentioning where I worked (this was whilst I
    was still living in the UK), he sent faxes and e-mails to my company, in
    an attempt to get me fired. When I moved to France, he started posting
    in (very bad) French to French newsgroups, stating that I was wanted by
    police in the UK for 'Internet theft', and that if anyone knew of my
    whereabouts, they were to contact the gendarmerie nationale. Some of
    Grüber's other posts involve claims to be a CIA agent, and to be looking
    for me on the orders of the federal government, to kill me by lethal
    injection and use my corpse as fertiliser, along with those of all the
    other 'Jews, faggots, niggers, pedophiles and lawyers' (no, I jest not)
    who have crossed his path. You can read more about this fascinating
    individual, here ..

    http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william/

    At that time, I was in touch with police and prosecutors working for
    Alberta Justice, the province's equivalent of the 'CPS' or the 'DA' in
    the United States. Despite my requests for that maniac to be
    prosecuted, and despite my offering to pay my own fare to Canada to
    appear as a witness, they refused to charge him.

    So that's the Jewish 'thang'. Then along came Noles, and his desire to
    demonise me for something, as 'revenge' for my destructions of what he
    fondly imagined were 'points'. In 2001 (IIRC), I rode up to Scotland on
    my FJR, and stopped off to visit a UK poster in Surrey. We shared a
    curry and a beer, and upon arrival back in France, I had the pleasure of
    reading claims from this poster that I had told him that I wasn't
    Jewish. Of course, I said no such thing, and have since exposed for
    AADP, the motives of that particular lie on the part of John Rennie, but
    Noles seized onto this, and proceded to construct a list of completely
    fabricated posts, in which I'm supposed to have made rampant
    anti-Semitic remarks. As you'll have guessed, most of these claims were
    blatant fabrications, and the ones that weren't, were simply
    'constructed' sentences, from different paragraphs. A famous example
    was when I wrote, 'Of _course_ I don't think that H****r was right to
    kill the Jews!', he chopped off the beginning, and claimed that I'd
    written, 'H****r was right to kill the Jews'. He likes to try to 'shift
    the goalposts', making the rules up to suit him. So he'll use double
    quotation marks for quotations, and when he uses single quotation marks,
    he'll (but only when caught out), claim that their use means that he's
    just 'approximating your philosophy'. Or he'll use underscores to be
    able to claim later on that he was 'speaking metaphorically'. When his
    back's to the wall, he'll throw caution to the wind and just blatantly
    and agressively demand the right to lie, when as in March of 2005, he
    wrote, 'I accuse you, and that is enough'.

    All things considered, I really have no interest (and nothing to gain)
    by claiming to be Jewish if I weren't. At one time, being harassed by
    Noles, to state that I wasn't Jewish, became a sort of 'rite of passage'
    for all newbies arriving on AADP. Then people started to ask themselves
    why the **** I'd persist in making a false claim, considering the
    obsessive posts by Noles, and his increasingly threatening behaviour,
    which on occasion 'spilled over' into real-life attempts to harm me and
    my family. Considering those attacks, and those from Grüber, it would
    have been easier for me to just throw my hands up and say, 'OK, it was a
    joke!' Believe me, there were times when I'd have preferred _not_ to be
    Jewish! But I didn't ask to born into the Chosen People, so why should
    I suffer such vicious, anti-Semitic attacks?

    In the face of _mountains_ of proof of my Jewishness that I posted, his
    claims became positively 'out there'. He claimed that my father had
    been involved in the death camps, that I'd murdered Jews and stolen
    their kippoth and yellow stars, that I'd been desecrating Jewish graves
    in the North and East of France, that I'd personally been involved in
    the planning and execution of 11/9, Pearl Harbour, and the Great Train
    Robbery, and that I was the reincarnations of H****r and of Gengis Khan.
    Then he claimed that I'd inseminated my mother (Z``L) who subsequently
    (work _this_ one out if you can!) gave birth to my father (Z``L), that
    my sister was a prostitute who was involved in an assassination plot
    against George W. Bush before she died of syphillis, and that my
    paternal grandmother was a satanist who sacrified Jewish children and
    drank their blood before allowing herself to be anally raped by a
    half-man, half-horse creature called Eric.

    He's insane. People bandy that word around a bit too much, but believe
    me folks, here we have the genuine article. A real, flesh and blood
    crackpot.

    Anyway, that's all besides the point. AADP is a piss-take, now, and I
    for one have a devilish time, goading that old pseudo-intellectual, and
    watching him jump. I'm just sorry that the twat-of-the-month Eiron
    decided to crosspost to AADP. I hope that he feels at least half as
    stupid as he looks.

    D.
     
    des_just_passing_through, May 17, 2007
  18. Paul Carmichael

    Ferger Guest

    Planet Visitor II secured a place in history by writing:

    < Snip Overture to Delusion for Massed Ice Cream Vans >

    Des may display some crazed fanaticism and fantasy, but his assessment of
    your 'tactics' in debate appears to be pretty much spot on.... selective
    quoting, incorrect quoting and attribution, blatant untruth presented as
    truth....anything to maintain your position. Which makes conversation with
    you a completely pointless exercise. Since you won't offer me the courtesy
    of a simple death-threat, I am formally withdrawing.

    I really think you need some help though. There's something very amiss in
    your psyche. Or perhaps just missing.
     
    Ferger, May 18, 2007
  19. They both do. They've both got severe mental issues. Drop them.
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 18, 2007
  20. Not quite, as I've said before .. although I do confess to being bemused
    (a bit more than last time) by the people on here who are _so_ fucking
    earnest, and who take themselves _so_ fucking seriously. That doesn't
    mean that I 'troll'. I repeat: no trolls since I came back.

    Anyway, all that shit is irrelevant. Chabbat chalom!

    D.
     
    des_just_passing_through, May 18, 2007
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