Well done you frogs!

Well of course they wouldn't, Des is a troll. The Des baiters see no
further than the From line and start having hissy fits the moment he
posts no matter what the content and despite saying how much they
despise and ignore him start pointing out huge great lists of links to
stuff that he has said and all the sensible folks have long since
stopped laughing and gone for a ride in the sunshine (and occasional
showers).

I think it is all rather amusing, in a Noel Coward smoking jacket and
glass of whisky kind of a way and that includes those who rise to him.

 

You _wish_.

someone who doesn't know the meaning of the adverb 'imperfectly'.

Feel stupid ? You should.

I'd hope not. Your attempt to get attention by starting crossposts, has
'clogged up' with crossposts from idiotic Americans who have nothing
better to do with their time than stalk me across Usenet.

You can seek to talk your way around it all you want, but you tried to
look clever, and ended up looking like a prize fuckwit. I'm not
responsible for those threads; you are.

You fucking twat.

D.

 

I have trolled in the past, like everyone here. But not since I came
back.

HTH.

D.

 

I agree you have been good but it is almost instinctive with you so you
have a little way to go yet.

I do note though that your mate from another planet, in fact all of
aadp, do seem to have seen a subtly different Des from us, which makes
me laugh.

 

I keep telling people that they shouldn't confuse what I write here, and
what I'm like IRL. If I can project two different personæ on two
different newsgroups, then I'm either good at being someone 'different',
or else I'm a schizophrenic basket case.

What makes _me_ laugh, are the fuckwits here who allow words written on
a screen to get to them to the extent that their replies to me and posts
about me, cross the 'boundary' from Usenet 'annoyance', to something
resembling real-life anger and invective. One poster even threatened me
with physical violence if I ever came near him. I mean like, for
_fuck's_ sake!

D.

 

Feedlines 'R Us.

 

Time you two got a bedroom it seems. You do have the video gear after all.

 

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Yeah, OK. I was getting really excited at the prospect of my first nntp
death-threat for a decade, but I don't think I'm going to get one now,
because Des keeps jumping in and stealing PV's focus.

I know, I know..

No thanks, if it's all the same - I have enough of Des' measure not to need
to bother

 

I _was_ actually being serious.

*sigh*

D.

 

Poor Bullshit Bear, needs what's called 'a clue', and the maturity to
grasp that one doesn't necessarily put one's true 'profile' on a
newsgroup where death threats are common, and where civility has long
ago become a 'nasty' word.

D.

 

Thank the lord for lens caps and the occasional bout of forgetfulness I
say

 

For once, we're in complete agreement.

D.

 

It's intentional. Five years or so ago, PV was being feted as some sort
of 'ordinary' poster. We even had one arsehole call him 'articulate',
for ****'s sake. There were only four of us who'd seen through his
'façade of erudition', and our reward for going after the ****, was to
be killfiled and insulted by some otherwise reasonable people on AADP.
Two posters still current on AADP in particular, sucked up to him when
he was getting mauled by even our lowliest of human flotsam. The result
is that he stuck around, but allowed me to get to him to such an extent
that he made death threats against me, and created half a dozen or so
'stalker' websites with my name on them.

I decided then that even if the cost was that I was killfiled by all of
AADP, I'd expose Noles and not give him a moment's rest. The cost has,
unsurprisingly enough, that I _am_ in a good number of posters'
killfiles, but the benefit is that my goading Noles has made his mask
'slip', and he is now i) insane, ii) recognised as such, and iii)
recognised by one and all as a racist, anti-Semitic, uneducated,
dishonest forger and white supremacist netkook.

I call that a price worth paying.

D.

PS as per TOG's post of this morning, I shall henceforth direct
follow-ups to AADP

 

Heh .. .can I use that ?

You ain't seen nothing yet. http://www.nizkor.org/ That site's
webmaster posts to AADP sometimes, and is (naturally enough) Jewish.
Noles asked him to choose whether he was 'for "desi" [sic] or against
him', and when Mr McVay refuse, Noles called _him_ a Nazi.

This should give you an idea of the monstrous cretin with whom we are
dealing on AADP.

D.

 

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To be fair, all I've seen *this* time is you responding to the illiterate
sex-obsessed septic.

I have to say, the fact that you both refer to the other as a Nazi is making
me giggle a bit - I mean, surely you would have met at the meetings or
something...

The fact that it would make you a Jewish Nazi doesn't seem to have even
caused a twitch on the Irony 'O' Matic across the pond. But then they don't
*do* irony, do they?

 

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Feel free. He seems quite content to select words at random from a paragraph
and string them into completely new sentance, so why not respond with an
actual quote.

Hardly surprising, he strikes me as the sort of chap who thinks a
concentration camp was a German summer school...

 

He does that all the time on AADP.

The 'Jewish' thing for him, has become something of an obsession. As
stated, I rarely if ever mentioned it in here, but never made a secret
of it on AADP. Very early on in that newsgroup's existence, a British
neo-Nazi called William Grüber (he has convictions for assault and
embezzlement in the UK, and changed his second name to Grosvenor upon
arrival in Canada), now living in Edmonton, Alberta, latched onto me.
When I made the error of mentioning where I worked (this was whilst I
was still living in the UK), he sent faxes and e-mails to my company, in
an attempt to get me fired. When I moved to France, he started posting
in (very bad) French to French newsgroups, stating that I was wanted by
police in the UK for 'Internet theft', and that if anyone knew of my
whereabouts, they were to contact the gendarmerie nationale. Some of
Grüber's other posts involve claims to be a CIA agent, and to be looking
for me on the orders of the federal government, to kill me by lethal
injection and use my corpse as fertiliser, along with those of all the
other 'Jews, faggots, niggers, pedophiles and lawyers' (no, I jest not)
who have crossed his path. You can read more about this fascinating
individual, here ..

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william/

At that time, I was in touch with police and prosecutors working for
Alberta Justice, the province's equivalent of the 'CPS' or the 'DA' in
the United States. Despite my requests for that maniac to be
prosecuted, and despite my offering to pay my own fare to Canada to
appear as a witness, they refused to charge him.

So that's the Jewish 'thang'. Then along came Noles, and his desire to
demonise me for something, as 'revenge' for my destructions of what he
fondly imagined were 'points'. In 2001 (IIRC), I rode up to Scotland on
my FJR, and stopped off to visit a UK poster in Surrey. We shared a
curry and a beer, and upon arrival back in France, I had the pleasure of
reading claims from this poster that I had told him that I wasn't
Jewish. Of course, I said no such thing, and have since exposed for
AADP, the motives of that particular lie on the part of John Rennie, but
Noles seized onto this, and proceded to construct a list of completely
fabricated posts, in which I'm supposed to have made rampant
anti-Semitic remarks. As you'll have guessed, most of these claims were
blatant fabrications, and the ones that weren't, were simply
'constructed' sentences, from different paragraphs. A famous example
was when I wrote, 'Of _course_ I don't think that H****r was right to
kill the Jews!', he chopped off the beginning, and claimed that I'd
written, 'H****r was right to kill the Jews'. He likes to try to 'shift
the goalposts', making the rules up to suit him. So he'll use double
quotation marks for quotations, and when he uses single quotation marks,
he'll (but only when caught out), claim that their use means that he's
just 'approximating your philosophy'. Or he'll use underscores to be
able to claim later on that he was 'speaking metaphorically'. When his
back's to the wall, he'll throw caution to the wind and just blatantly
and agressively demand the right to lie, when as in March of 2005, he
wrote, 'I accuse you, and that is enough'.

All things considered, I really have no interest (and nothing to gain)
by claiming to be Jewish if I weren't. At one time, being harassed by
Noles, to state that I wasn't Jewish, became a sort of 'rite of passage'
for all newbies arriving on AADP. Then people started to ask themselves
why the **** I'd persist in making a false claim, considering the
obsessive posts by Noles, and his increasingly threatening behaviour,
which on occasion 'spilled over' into real-life attempts to harm me and
my family. Considering those attacks, and those from Grüber, it would
have been easier for me to just throw my hands up and say, 'OK, it was a
joke!' Believe me, there were times when I'd have preferred _not_ to be
Jewish! But I didn't ask to born into the Chosen People, so why should
I suffer such vicious, anti-Semitic attacks?

In the face of _mountains_ of proof of my Jewishness that I posted, his
claims became positively 'out there'. He claimed that my father had
been involved in the death camps, that I'd murdered Jews and stolen
their kippoth and yellow stars, that I'd been desecrating Jewish graves
in the North and East of France, that I'd personally been involved in
the planning and execution of 11/9, Pearl Harbour, and the Great Train
Robbery, and that I was the reincarnations of H****r and of Gengis Khan.
Then he claimed that I'd inseminated my mother (Z``L) who subsequently
(work _this_ one out if you can!) gave birth to my father (Z``L), that
my sister was a prostitute who was involved in an assassination plot
against George W. Bush before she died of syphillis, and that my
paternal grandmother was a satanist who sacrified Jewish children and
drank their blood before allowing herself to be anally raped by a
half-man, half-horse creature called Eric.

He's insane. People bandy that word around a bit too much, but believe
me folks, here we have the genuine article. A real, flesh and blood
crackpot.

Anyway, that's all besides the point. AADP is a piss-take, now, and I
for one have a devilish time, goading that old pseudo-intellectual, and
watching him jump. I'm just sorry that the twat-of-the-month Eiron
decided to crosspost to AADP. I hope that he feels at least half as
stupid as he looks.

D.

 

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Des may display some crazed fanaticism and fantasy, but his assessment of
your 'tactics' in debate appears to be pretty much spot on.... selective
quoting, incorrect quoting and attribution, blatant untruth presented as
truth....anything to maintain your position. Which makes conversation with
you a completely pointless exercise. Since you won't offer me the courtesy
of a simple death-threat, I am formally withdrawing.

I really think you need some help though. There's something very amiss in
your psyche. Or perhaps just missing.

 

They both do. They've both got severe mental issues. Drop them.

 

Not quite, as I've said before .. although I do confess to being bemused
(a bit more than last time) by the people on here who are _so_ fucking
earnest, and who take themselves _so_ fucking seriously. That doesn't
mean that I 'troll'. I repeat: no trolls since I came back.

Anyway, all that shit is irrelevant. Chabbat chalom!

D.