Well there we go then...

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by MrMoosehead, Nov 7, 2006.

  1. MrMoosehead

    MrMoosehead Guest

    True, true. I have hoisted wheelies, but never good ones...}:8)

    Where are you these days old chap?
     
    MrMoosehead, Nov 8, 2006
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  2. MrMoosehead

    MrMoosehead Guest

    Er ... but you're fairly slow on a bike.

    I don't get it.[/QUOTE]

    Fairly slow compared to you and Champ and all those other people. But
    still like reaching 130 on the commute to work. It's just too tempting
    to rag it as hard as I can. ( which isn't as hard as you can maybe, but
    still too fast to be sensible)
    Hehehe.
     
    MrMoosehead, Nov 8, 2006
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    Tosspot Guest

    Get something smaller then. I dunno, got no kids, but the only thing
    parting me from my bike is the undertaker. Hmmmm...I may have lost this
    discussion eh?
     
    Tosspot, Nov 8, 2006
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  4. MrMoosehead

    Tosspot Guest

    Mate of mine binned it trying for a tricky Ikebana, but he was straight
    back starting with a simple bouquet as soon as he'd recovered.
     
    Tosspot, Nov 8, 2006
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  5. MrMoosehead

    Tosspot Guest

    Gone off stalking Tony.
     
    Tosspot, Nov 8, 2006
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  6. I think it's more common than we realise - it's being cursed with too
    much imagination and a perfectly normal reaction to doing a risky thing.
    I suppose rock climbers get it too, and the bloke down the circus with
    the funny nose probably lives in dread of being sat on by the elephant.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Nov 8, 2006
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  7. MrMoosehead

    Ace Guest

    Yeah, well I never thought I'd say it either, but the ease with which
    I nearly killed myself, and most importantly of all, the pain which
    ensued, both immediately and later in hospital, has somewhat changed
    my perspective on the whole thing.

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    Ace, Nov 8, 2006
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  8. MrMoosehead

    Ace Guest

    [/QUOTE]

    Neither did I. But that was before 'The Pain'.
    I'll choose to interpret that as a non-nasty comment, although it's a
    close call. There is an element of truth in it, though, in the sense
    of becoming aware, not only of your own vulnerability, but the ease
    with which a sportsbike can spit you off and throw you against the
    road furniture, and the utter helplessness as it's happening.
    Heh. Sadly, I couldn't find a single factor to mitigate against my
    fuckwittedness - sunny day, dry road, good surface. The only thing I
    could complain about was the **** that decided an armco barrier was
    called for.
    Quite so.
    And you can **** _right_ off, as well you know.

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    \`\ | /`/ GSX-R1000K3 (slightly broken, currently missing)
    `\\ | //' BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2, IBB#10
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    Ace, Nov 8, 2006
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  9. MrMoosehead

    MrMoosehead Guest

    Yeah, but how many myopic skoda drivers do you get on a rock face?
    LOL.
     
    MrMoosehead, Nov 8, 2006
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    Hog Guest

    I didn't have any appetite for it over 6 or 9 months after trashing
    myself. The enthusiasm returned though and normal service was resumed
    within a year. I imagine it's a standard reaction.
     
    Hog, Nov 8, 2006
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    Dan White Guest

    Pretty much a given.
     
    Dan White, Nov 8, 2006
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    Ben Guest

    However many have just driven off the top.
     
    Ben, Nov 8, 2006
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  13. MrMoosehead

    Pete Fisher Guest

    A valid point that rock climbers by and large only have to worry about
    what their actions rather than those of others.

    There is, though, the unpredictability of the rock, and on high climbs
    the weather. Also equipment could fail. If not doing a solo the other
    person on the rope could cock it up or not belay you properly.

    You probably do get a few Skoda drivers (myopic or otherwise) on rock
    faces these days actually (without the car hopefully). I think your
    stereotype of a typical Skoda driver is somewhat outdated.

    As to the matter under discussion, I have been fortunate enough not to
    have had a really big off only a couple of fairly painful falls when
    racing and several tumbles when hill climbing.

    When I became a somewhat elderly father I thought about it, and decided
    that if I stopped doing anything that carried an element of risk I might
    end up not wanting to risk even getting out of bed in the morning. BTW
    did you know that more people die as they get out of bed than at any
    other time?

    So I carried on riding a solo, and also bought a sidecar outfit - "We'll
    all go together if we go".

    If, as you say, you tend to ride in a way that exposes you to a greater
    risk of falling off because of your own actions then I can understand
    your decision.

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    | Pete Fisher at Home: |
    | Voxan Roadster Gilera Nordwest Yamaha WR250Z |
    | Gilera GFR Moto Morini 2C/375 |
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    Pete Fisher, Nov 8, 2006
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  14. Gotta get right back on that vase.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Nov 8, 2006
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  15. MrMoosehead

    Ace Guest

    Yeah, I know. As have others. Maybe it's the fact of it hapenning at
    an age where you're not supposed to do stuff like that. When you're
    young these things just happen, or not - with age is supposed to come
    wisdom, or something. Adie quotes Andy as saying he'd pack it up if he
    had another big one now, for example. (Although whether he would or
    not I've no idea).
    It's possible, but as I posted not long before the accident, road
    riding for me was all about treating the road like my personal
    race-track; I can't see me ever again putting myself in such
    vulnerable situations as I used to. I used to think I knew the risks,
    but now I'd never feel that way again. And without that all-or-nothing
    speed-or-glory approach, biking holds little appeal.
    Hmmm. Not sure I quite understand. Or are you just saying in different
    words what I'm meaning about my all-out race-track-on-the-road riding
    style?
    Well of course not. that would be plainly ridiculous.
    I think what's really done it for me is that I've come that '' close
    to losing my ability to ski. When it all comes down to it biking
    always (well, ever since I started skiing) came second in my 'extreme
    activities' book, and although I can face a future without biking, I
    don't think a future without skiing sounds very worthwhile. It's also
    something that me and Jude do together, whereas biking was never her
    bag.

    Ergo, I'm not going to risk the things I love most by continuing to do
    something that's already come so close to losing it for me.

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    \`\ | /`/ GSX-R1000K3 (slightly broken, currently missing)
    `\\ | //' BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2, IBB#10
    `\|/`
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    Ace, Nov 9, 2006
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  16. MrMoosehead

    MrMoosehead Guest

    *ding*
     
    MrMoosehead, Nov 9, 2006
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  17. MrMoosehead

    Ace Guest

    Yebbut, you've given it up without the suffering, which is just
    wimping out, IMO.

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    ..'_/_|_\_'. Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom)
    \`\ | /`/ GSX-R1000K3 (slightly broken, currently missing)
    `\\ | //' BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2, IBB#10
    `\|/`
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    Ace, Nov 9, 2006
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  18. MrMoosehead

    MrMoosehead Guest

    Whatever you want to call it. I don't give a toss. But the sentiments
    are the same.

    Think of it as forward planning.
     
    MrMoosehead, Nov 9, 2006
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    snip>
    If I ended up unable to ride a bike as fast as I wanted because of
    either a physical or a mental problem I'd stop riding. I'm not sure if
    the pain of a big crash would influence my decision or not, it never
    has before.

    I'm not really into doing things that I look on as 'playtime' at a
    lower level than I'm used to so when I can't carry on as normal I find
    something else to do. Bikes are toys, not a life statement and I'm
    sure I'd find other stuff to do.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Nov 10, 2006
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  20. MrMoosehead

    Ace Guest

    Exactly how I'm looking at it now. And also why perhaps dirtbiking
    might be in the equation, 'cos I don't think I'd feel constrained in
    doing that, whereas I'm sure I wouldn't ride 100% on the road any
    more.
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    ..'_/_|_\_'. Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom)
    \`\ | /`/ GSX-R1000K3 (slightly broken, currently missing)
    `\\ | //' BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2, IBB#10
    `\|/`
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    Ace, Nov 10, 2006
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