Wet / Cold Weather gear

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by R0 0R, Sep 29, 2003.

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    R0 0R Guest

    I am a newbie so if I am asking a stupid question please forgive me ;)

    Anyway, I passed a month ago, went and bought a new CBR-600F and the
    whole summer leather setup. After a few weeks of joyful and sweaty
    summer riding I am beginning to get the brass monkey feeling. I have
    spent what I consider a lot of cash on my leathers, should I buy
    another set of winter goretex clothing or would windblocker underwear
    and a placcy outer suit be good? I can still use my boots as I went
    for the Daytona Evo Sport GTX - at least that was a one-off purchase
    I read that the Held gloves are the b*ll*cks and that the Yoko jacket
    is also good any comments (the Clover M3 jacket in TWO looks

    TIA unless flaming!
    R0 0R, Sep 29, 2003
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  2. I was once told the only truly stupid questions are those you don't ask.
    I would also say UKRM is the only place that rule doesn't count :)
    wind? away?
    It's a given round here mate, enjoy it whilst you can.
    Doesnotcompute, Sep 29, 2003
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    petrolcan Guest

    One piece waterproofs. Hien Gericke do a good set for around £40
    IIRC. If it's still too chilly, put a fleece in between.
    Daytona's *rock*
    Dunno about that stuff but if you want winter gloves you cannot go
    far wrong with HG Panthan Lobsters.
    petrolcan, Sep 29, 2003
  4. R0 0R wrote
    This is ukrm, forgiveness is not an option.
    Toughen up.

    Cheap (and surprisingly effective) is a good quality plastic oversuit.

    Recommended is a separate winter set of Hi-Tech man made material
    waterproofs with optional detachable thermal lining.

    Desired is a set of 4 seasons leathers.

    If you read it in a magazine then it probably is bollox.

    Lobsters are still favourite for winter gloves around here I think.

    I don't recall seeing either of the jackets you mention being discussed
    here before so there may be a chance they are not utter crap. However,
    I feel their chances of being described as the dogs bollox are equally
    steve auvache, Sep 30, 2003
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    Ginge Guest

    Ginge, Sep 30, 2003
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    Ginge Guest

    I like mine.

    Black they are, with black bits.
    Ginge, Sep 30, 2003
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    Mr Precision Guest

    Nah, this is as cold as it gets, just stick to the leathers.

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    (Colin.Smith at archeus.plus.com)
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    Mr Precision, Sep 30, 2003
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    Alan.T.Gower Guest

    It really all depends on often you are going to ride a bike. If you
    intend to use it for commuting you'll probably need two sets of winter
    clothes [1]. If you're a weekend mostly rider get some outer
    waterproof/windproof outer clothing. Mine cost around 30ukp. If you can
    keep the wind away the leather will keep you warm.

    [1] One for drying and one for wearing.
    Alan.T.Gower, Sep 30, 2003
  9. The first prototype of the four season textile garment, with abrasion,
    cut and burst protection equal to the very best leathers, is due into
    the UK next week. It should be on display at the NEC show in November.
    Paul Varnsverry, Sep 30, 2003
  10. Paul Varnsverry wrote
    Look numbnuts if I am going to be wearing it 24/7 then it is going o be
    leather ok. The only fucking reason I wear cordura is because, unlike
    leather, it is warmer and totally waterproof in the winter.
    steve auvache, Sep 30, 2003
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    jsp Guest

    Oh yes? GIF GIF! ;-)


    Black it is
    and naked
    jsp, Sep 30, 2003
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    Martian Guest

    Go to ARCO and purchase a high viz waterproof jacket to go over your
    leathers and a pair of Regatta waterproof trousers the total cost will
    be less than 40UKP and will last for years. Either that or buy an
    overpriced set of "waterproof" winter gear and then suffer the misery of
    damp gear as the water seeps through the semi-permeable membrane after
    you have left it hanging up for a day.

    the HG lobster gloves are the ones you want although again they soak up
    the water as well and will keep you "warm" down to about 0 degrees for
    about 20 minutes of M-way. Any lower and longer you will need heated
    grips etc.


    Martian, Sep 30, 2003
  13. In other words, it will be designed to fit a hunchback gorilla and only
    come in GSX-R colours? ;-))
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 30, 2003
  14. Paul Varnsverry wrote
    Absolutely not, my ideal armour is held together with leather.
    Spam and this virus thing is mostly what I got today.

    My claim to expertise in the subject is only as a consumer of off the
    peg gear I am afraid. Although I would consider bespoke were it not for
    the fact that there are tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of people
    testing HG gear.
    steve auvache, Sep 30, 2003
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    Mr Precision Guest

    Mine drips dry in half an hour, yours sounds like it needs cleaned and the
    surface reproofed.
    Heated grips are overrated, warm palms frozen fingers. Handlebar muffs.
    Wash the gloves and re-apply the water repellent stuff. The membranes get
    blocked if water covers them and they stop being breathable.
    Mr Precision, Oct 1, 2003
  16. Does this mean it will be 50% of the way to appealing to you? :)
    Paul Varnsverry, Oct 1, 2003
  17. I believe I comprehend your angle on this. One of the aversions quite
    a few people I speak with have towards textile garments is that they
    are much looser fitting than leathers, and the impact protectors in
    them can consequently move around too much.

    The root cause of this is the idiotic sizing requirements contained in
    EN 1621-1, the European Standard for motorcyclists' impact protectors.
    A typical "Euro-bodge" courtesy of the meddlings of certain
    continental manufacturers and suppliers, the standard specifies two
    sizes of protectors: "Type A" and "Type B". Most garments feature the
    larger Type B approved protectors, but these are still, IMHO,
    inadequately sized for anyone much over 5'6"!

    When EN 1621-1 was being developed, in the early-to-mid 1990s, the BSI
    experts proposed a pro-rata sizing schedule as required by the
    "umbrella" standard EN 340 ("Protective Clothing - General
    Requirements"), but certain industry representatives claimed this
    would be impossible to work with. Makes you wonder how they cope with
    mulivarious garment sizes, doesn't it? So, we are left with the
    current fixed minimum sizings (and most suppliers go with the minimum
    they can get away with).

    In the garments I have been describing, however, I have recommended a
    pro-rata sizing system, and they are dealing with an impact protector
    supplier who can provide suitable components. Combined with the fact
    that the garment itself is slightly more robust than the average
    single-layer textile suit currently out there on the dealers' shelves,
    the impact protectors will be more inclined to stay in place, or to
    only deviate from their positions by a minimal degree. Their retention
    *will* be tested as part of the product's EN 13595 accreditation.
    And once I had also disposed of the influx of those, I was left with
    some sensible correspndence.
    The consumer is the final arbiter! ;-)
    Paul Varnsverry, Oct 1, 2003
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    Alan.T.Gower Guest

    I ride all the year round and have done for many years. When it's wet
    you gear will get wet. It doesn't always dry out over night.
    Alan.T.Gower, Oct 1, 2003
  19. Nigel Eaton wrote
    How about an mpeg?
    steve auvache, Oct 1, 2003
  20. Paul Varnsverry wrote
    Not my complaint. I should tell you that I do possess both man made and
    leather armour and find each adequate for its role.

    The Cordura set is fine for winter when lots of rain and cold protection
    are needed but piss all use when it is even the slightest bit warm and,
    in terms of protection, have performed well enough in the two rather
    slow contacts I have had with the tarmac while wearing them.

    My leathers leak and are moderately cool in the summer and I look the
    dogs bollox in them. Have not tried abrasion testing them yet though.

    Something the sellers of goods and services could do with being more
    aware of IMHO.
    steve auvache, Oct 1, 2003
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