Wet / Cold Weather gear

I am a newbie so if I am asking a stupid question please forgive me

Anyway, I passed a month ago, went and bought a new CBR-600F and the
whole summer leather setup. After a few weeks of joyful and sweaty
summer riding I am beginning to get the brass monkey feeling. I have
spent what I consider a lot of cash on my leathers, should I buy
another set of winter goretex clothing or would windblocker underwear
and a placcy outer suit be good? I can still use my boots as I went
for the Daytona Evo Sport GTX - at least that was a one-off purchase

I read that the Held gloves are the b*ll*cks and that the Yoko jacket
is also good any comments (the Clover M3 jacket in TWO looks
quality...)

TIA unless flaming!

 

I was once told the only truly stupid questions are those you don't ask.
I would also say UKRM is the only place that rule doesn't count

wind? away?

^^^^^^
It's a given round here mate, enjoy it whilst you can.

 

One piece waterproofs. Hien Gericke do a good set for around £40
IIRC. If it's still too chilly, put a fleece in between.

Daytona's *rock*

Dunno about that stuff but if you want winter gloves you cannot go
far wrong with HG Panthan Lobsters.

 

R0 0R wrote

This is ukrm, forgiveness is not an option.

Toughen up.

Cheap (and surprisingly effective) is a good quality plastic oversuit.

Recommended is a separate winter set of Hi-Tech man made material
waterproofs with optional detachable thermal lining.

Desired is a set of 4 seasons leathers.

If you read it in a magazine then it probably is bollox.

Lobsters are still favourite for winter gloves around here I think.

I don't recall seeing either of the jackets you mention being discussed
here before so there may be a chance they are not utter crap. However,
I feel their chances of being described as the dogs bollox are equally
slim.

 

I like mine.

Black they are, with black bits.

 

Nah, this is as cold as it gets, just stick to the leathers.

--
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(Colin.Smith at archeus.plus.com)
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infected with all sorts of viruses and well, that's just tough.

 

It really all depends on often you are going to ride a bike. If you
intend to use it for commuting you'll probably need two sets of winter
clothes [1]. If you're a weekend mostly rider get some outer
waterproof/windproof outer clothing. Mine cost around 30ukp. If you can
keep the wind away the leather will keep you warm.

[1] One for drying and one for wearing.

 

The first prototype of the four season textile garment, with abrasion,
cut and burst protection equal to the very best leathers, is due into
the UK next week. It should be on display at the NEC show in November.

 

Paul Varnsverry wrote

Look numbnuts if I am going to be wearing it 24/7 then it is going o be
leather ok. The only fucking reason I wear cordura is because, unlike
leather, it is warmer and totally waterproof in the winter.

 

Oh yes? GIF GIF! ;-)



--
John

SV650
Black it is
and naked

 

Go to ARCO and purchase a high viz waterproof jacket to go over your
leathers and a pair of Regatta waterproof trousers the total cost will
be less than 40UKP and will last for years. Either that or buy an
overpriced set of "waterproof" winter gear and then suffer the misery of
damp gear as the water seeps through the semi-permeable membrane after
you have left it hanging up for a day.

the HG lobster gloves are the ones you want although again they soak up
the water as well and will keep you "warm" down to about 0 degrees for
about 20 minutes of M-way. Any lower and longer you will need heated
grips etc.

HTH.


HTH

 

In other words, it will be designed to fit a hunchback gorilla and only
come in GSX-R colours? ;-))

 

Paul Varnsverry wrote

Absolutely not, my ideal armour is held together with leather.

Spam and this virus thing is mostly what I got today.

My claim to expertise in the subject is only as a consumer of off the
peg gear I am afraid. Although I would consider bespoke were it not for
the fact that there are tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of people
testing HG gear.

 

Mine drips dry in half an hour, yours sounds like it needs cleaned and the
surface reproofed.

Heated grips are overrated, warm palms frozen fingers. Handlebar muffs.
Wash the gloves and re-apply the water repellent stuff. The membranes get
blocked if water covers them and they stop being breathable.

 

Does this mean it will be 50% of the way to appealing to you?

 

I believe I comprehend your angle on this. One of the aversions quite
a few people I speak with have towards textile garments is that they
are much looser fitting than leathers, and the impact protectors in
them can consequently move around too much.

The root cause of this is the idiotic sizing requirements contained in
EN 1621-1, the European Standard for motorcyclists' impact protectors.
A typical "Euro-bodge" courtesy of the meddlings of certain
continental manufacturers and suppliers, the standard specifies two
sizes of protectors: "Type A" and "Type B". Most garments feature the
larger Type B approved protectors, but these are still, IMHO,
inadequately sized for anyone much over 5'6"!

When EN 1621-1 was being developed, in the early-to-mid 1990s, the BSI
experts proposed a pro-rata sizing schedule as required by the
"umbrella" standard EN 340 ("Protective Clothing - General
Requirements"), but certain industry representatives claimed this
would be impossible to work with. Makes you wonder how they cope with
mulivarious garment sizes, doesn't it? So, we are left with the
current fixed minimum sizings (and most suppliers go with the minimum
they can get away with).

In the garments I have been describing, however, I have recommended a
pro-rata sizing system, and they are dealing with an impact protector
supplier who can provide suitable components. Combined with the fact
that the garment itself is slightly more robust than the average
single-layer textile suit currently out there on the dealers' shelves,
the impact protectors will be more inclined to stay in place, or to
only deviate from their positions by a minimal degree. Their retention
*will* be tested as part of the product's EN 13595 accreditation.

And once I had also disposed of the influx of those, I was left with
some sensible correspndence.

The consumer is the final arbiter! ;-)

 

I ride all the year round and have done for many years. When it's wet
you gear will get wet. It doesn't always dry out over night.

 

Nigel Eaton wrote

How about an mpeg?

 

Paul Varnsverry wrote

Not my complaint. I should tell you that I do possess both man made and
leather armour and find each adequate for its role.

The Cordura set is fine for winter when lots of rain and cold protection
are needed but piss all use when it is even the slightest bit warm and,
in terms of protection, have performed well enough in the two rather
slow contacts I have had with the tarmac while wearing them.

My leathers leak and are moderately cool in the summer and I look the
dogs bollox in them. Have not tried abrasion testing them yet though.

Something the sellers of goods and services could do with being more
aware of IMHO.