What do I do if I get a puncture?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Dickie Bird, Feb 5, 2008.

  1. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Champ
    #HUH! Good god, y'all
    #Absolutely nothing
    #Say it again, yeah!

    Sorry, don't know what came over me.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Feb 5, 2008
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  2. A new Screwfix Catalogue wouldn't have anything to do with it perchance?
     
    steve auvache, Feb 5, 2008
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  3. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, steve auvache
    <fap-fap-fap-fap-fap-fap-fap-fap-fap>
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Feb 5, 2008
    #23
  4. What happened?
     
    Slower Than You, Feb 5, 2008
    #24
  5. Dickie Bird

    Beav Guest

    I've only had one set of tyres that didn't need a repair within the first
    100 miles. All bike tyres too, not cars.

    I never leave home without a plug kit and at least 3 inflator bottles.


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    Beav, Feb 5, 2008
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  6. Dickie Bird

    gbzzl Guest

    There is the in tyre stuff mentioned (Ultraseal) which is a a precise
    quantity of liquid (based on tyre dimensions) added by removing the valve
    core, pouring or squirting it in then replacing the valve and re-inflating
    the tyre. Centrifugal force throws it outwards in motion which coats the
    entire inner surface of the tyre.

    There are criticisms, it is messy, tyre fitters hate the stuff
    (allegedly), it may affect the handling, alter the balance of the wheel
    and so on but overall I think the stuff is worthy of consideration as a
    preventative and a get you home or back to civilised or populated areas
    where proper repair or replacement is possible.

    It can play havoc with the valves, they might not seat immediately after
    removing a tyre inflator/gauge when checking the pressures or
    adding/releasing air, which is disconcerting but they usually seat and
    seal after a few seconds of hissing. Good metal dust-caps with a rubber
    internal seal themselves give another line of defence against leakage
    from there or ingress of dirt which can cause leaks there.

    I have never bought or used Ultraseal but found it was in the tyres of
    a bike I bought last year which had a large(ish) nail in the rear tyre.
    The tyre was probably only good for another couple of thousand miles of
    wear so it was not worth the bother to attend to a repair of a tyre which
    would be discarded in any case after a couple of months of summer usage.
    After a longish trip (Selkirk to Stranraer, about 120 miles), on arrival I
    noticed the nail was no longer there but the tyre remained inflated and I
    made the return trip, assuming that the nail had never fully penetrated
    and no air escape had or would take place. In any case my NU (Bike Gold)
    policy included RAC recovery as a last resort for extreme eventualities.

    Arriving back after another 120 miles, and the pink slime had escaped from
    the now vacant hole formerly occupied by the nail, coating everything from
    the undertray to the swingarm to my boot soles with the stuff, not knowing
    the stuff was in there and given the pinkish hue I assumed I had
    inadvertently and unknowingly slaughtered a pheasant or chicken or rabbit
    or something and that the substance was blood and gizzards. The tyre
    though was partially deflated and hot, having been ridden hard 120 miles
    of 'A' road, it was hotter than a hand could more than momentarily bear,
    it was quickly identified as the source of the gunk as the stuff continued
    to ooze from the hole in a worm like fashion until the tyre cooled.

    This isn't a testimonial so much as a relation of an experience where it
    certainly did something not far removed from its claims. I am open to
    persuasion that it nevertheless IS the devils work. I'm not one for
    carrying shedloads of emergency kit, excepting, cash, plastic and mobile
    phone so prevention and mitigation of pneumatic mishaps appeals.
     
    gbzzl, Feb 5, 2008
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  7. Dickie Bird

    Catman Guest

    Changing lanes (3 to 2) M25 twixt J19 and 20. 85ish MPH.

    Big gutter twixt lanes, hit that. Back end went sideways what felt like
    about a foot (probably wasn't) and would not get back into any kind of
    comfortable shape. Felt like the back wheel was no longer really
    connected to the front of the bike.

    I was pretty sure I knew what was happening as I had ridden on a flat
    before. Came off at J20, up the A41 toward Hemel. Pulled into the first
    laybye. Dismounted and checked. Lo and behold. Not enough air in the
    back at all :(

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    Catman, Feb 5, 2008
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  8. They go cold, certainly, but not dangerously so. My kit has a little
    perforated plastic sleeve to slop over them, as insulation.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Feb 6, 2008
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  9. Dickie Bird

    Catman Guest

    Not a good idea, IMHO. You can screw the carcass of the tyre and make
    repair impossible


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    Catman, Feb 6, 2008
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  10. Dickie Bird

    Catman Guest

    Heh. I thought that was just to help grip.

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    Catman, Feb 6, 2008
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  11. Dickie Bird

    MikeH Guest

    I've used three[1] now (I think) and TOG is correct - they go cold but
    you won't need A&E.

    [1] Not on my bikes - I've carried them since I got a free one with my
    first BM, and used them when I've stopped to help a couple of people
    them followed them home[2]. When they offered to pay I just asked them
    to get a set and carry them in case they can help somebody else.

    [2] OK, so one didn't actually want to be followed but she did look
    *lovely* on that seat.
     
    MikeH, Feb 6, 2008
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  12. Dickie Bird

    darsy Guest

    On Feb 5, 9:30 am, "Dickie Bird" <Dickie Bird@Dickie Bird.popex.net>
    wrote:
    [snip]

    funnily enough, I was asking myself exactly this question in relation
    to my /car/, which doesn't have a spare wheel, not even a space-saver.

    Then I read the manual and find the tool kit contains a can of gunk
    and a 12v compressor...
     
    darsy, Feb 6, 2008
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  13. Dickie Bird

    antonye Guest

    Ha, you want a nice set of runflats. Although ours also has a spare
    in the boot which comes with an ingenious winch-type attachment to
    lift the fucking thing out of the boot as it weighs a ton! It took
    me ages to work out what to do (typically I didn't read the manual)
    but it's actually very clever and dead easy.
     
    antonye, Feb 6, 2008
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  14. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, darsy
    My Rav-4's like that. Apparently if they fit the spare wheel to the rear
    door (which opens sideways), then the door can't fully open because the
    wheel would cover the rear light and prevent people thinking of the
    children, or something.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Feb 6, 2008
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  15. Dickie Bird

    CT Guest

    I'm surprised that's not illegal. I mean, I don't agree it *ought* to
    be illegal, just that it isn't, IYSWIM.
     
    CT, Feb 6, 2008
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  16. Dickie Bird

    Ace Guest

    With run-flat tyres it's not really a problem. Jude's pug had a
    puncture once - a sidewall rip that wouldn't have been fixable with
    the supplied cans of gunk - and I quite happily drove it home and then
    to the tyre centre the next day, about 20 miles in total. It was
    actually not at all obvious at lowish-normal speeds that there was a
    puncture at all; only if you booted it did it start to get a bit
    floppy.

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    Ace, Feb 6, 2008
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  17. Dickie Bird

    CT Guest

    Oh, I know.

    It was more the thought that there'd be a law, probably from about
    1930-odd and now totally out of date, that requires all cars to carry
    spare wheels.
     
    CT, Feb 6, 2008
    #37
  18. Cheers. It's always good to try and learn from other people's
    experiences I think. The outside lane of the M25 is not the ideal place
    for that sort of thing to happen!
     
    Slower Than You, Feb 6, 2008
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  19. Dickie Bird

    Catman Guest

    It's less than ideal, but not as bad as I was expecting. Wasn't a
    complete blow out.



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    116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 145 2.0 Cloverleaf 156 V6 2.5 S2
    Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see.
    www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
     
    Catman, Feb 6, 2008
    #39
  20. Dickie Bird

    darsy Guest

    I know exactly what you mean.
     
    darsy, Feb 6, 2008
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