[QUOTE] Your not that dim, I know[/QUOTE] Especially as it isn't a 'dim' point at all. Under most other leaders we wouldn't be in Iraq. [QUOTE] They attacked us too[/QUOTE] Who - Iraq? Afganistan? What *are* you smoking? [QUOTE] Harsh indeed[/QUOTE] But true. The Kurds want an independent Kurdistan, the Sunnis want to rule as do the Shi'ites - largely so that they can wipe out the others. Phil