What`ll he get?

Mate of mine got caught speeding today.

The idiot was barreling down the M1 between Leicester and Northampton and
failed to notice he was being followed by a suspicious looking Volvo for a
full 7 miles!

They`ve clocked him at an average of 145mph for these 7.1 miles or so
(vascar I presume).
Taken into the back of the car and given a lecture but nothing on video and
told it`ll be passed over for prosecution (so he`ll be waiting for a NIP
then?).

Also warned about his single line number plate.

No other crimes were mentioned (reckless or dangerous driving), road was
reasonably empty (he says), full clean license and no points.

I had no idea what to say to him about the possible outcome and just
wondered what The Font in it`s collective wisdom reacons the punishment will
be?

Ban (more than likely but how long?) points? fine? Jail (it`s been known to
happen :-(

 

That sounds a bit iffy. That's a hell of a long distance for them to be
recording an 'average' speed.

Quite a high average, too - can't see how he could have held that kind
of speed for 7 miles without a car baulking him and forcing him to drop
down to half that.

**** knows. If I were to make a wild guess, I'd reckon on the thick end
of a £500 fine and 6 month ban, at least.

 

It really depends on the day but it will certainly go to court. The minimum
would be a six month ban but it could easily be 30 days inside. If they take
it as serious dangerous driving it could be up to two years imprisonment.

 

Only 3 minutes, thobut.
If something sat behind me for more than 20 seconds at that speed, I'd be
very suspicious.

 

Is the correct answer. Decision on what to do him for will involve
Crown Prosecution Service and how many others were caught on the day
and how fast they were doing. If it really was a 7 mile chase then a
few days inside are highly likely. OH and on the day wear a suit
collar and tie and be ever so evers humble

Boxerboy

 

Especially if the police choose to do the same speed for seven miles.

 

And the defence would be - if it was dangerous, why did they let him do it
for 7 miles?

The guy's in trouble, no mistake, but I would wait and see what they come up
with in writing. The 145mph claim might just be an opening bid, as it were.
When I was much younger I was pulled for speeding in a 30. The cop who
stopped me *said* I was doing up between 60 and 70, but that he would only
put 50 down on the paperwork. I was happy to agree with that - it was only
later that I realised he probably was flying a kite. As I said, I was quite
young when that happened.


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They do that, don't they? I got a "You were doing well over 100, but
you were driving safely.. I could take this to court, but in this case,
as you clearly realise your mistake I'm prepared to say in excess of
the speed limit and issue a fixed penalty and 3 points."

I wasn't unhappy with the outcome, as I knew I'd been doing over a ton.

 

Thanks for the replies but I won`t tell him any general concensus even
though a ban seems inevitable (for which he`ll lose his job) and wait and
see what the CPS throw at him in way of charges.

Agreed that it does seem strange (to say the least) that they followed him
for 7 miles at 145 before pulling him.
Maybe there is some room for manouvre here when it comes to court.
I`ll post the outcome.

 

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Snip the sigs, newbie.

 

That's not very nice Uncle Nigel.

 

He is Wicked for a reason.

 

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Plod nabbed me just on the exit from Regent's Park once.

"Do you know we were doing 60 to catch you up?", he said.

<shrug> "Hardly surprising, given I passed you mile back and you just
sat there for ages", was my reply.

Then I nutted the WPC, totally by accident, as she dropped her notebook
and we both bent down to pick it up. Nice, she was.

 

Heh, excellent chat up style. Never tried that.

 

Are you sure that he's completely clear that that's what was said? Might
it have been that they were following him for 7 miles at speeds of up to
145?

 

Could be very bad, or could be nothing, depending on your solicitor
and the court...

I had a similar incident a few years ago (before excessive speeding
was classed as dangerous driving). Unmarked car followed me for
similar distance, estimating my speed at over 145 since they could
only do 134 in their Vento. I thought it was just a speeder following
me, since the car kept trying to keep up through roadworks, where we
were down to a crawl through single line traffic. No flashing lights
or siren visible/audible by me. I mentioned that I thought he was
just someone who either wanted to catch me or had a grudge that I'd
passed through the roadworks quicker than him, so I was actually
trying to get away from him.

They came round the next day to see me and advised that I should plead
guilty, since the video wouldn't be shown in court so I wouldn't be
hung out to dry. I suggested they weren't solicitors, so shouldn't
advise, and I'd let my solicitor view the video.

They duly sent it to a solicitor I found who looked at it and remarked
that the police driving was far worse than mine. I did all my
lifesavers, kept lane discipline (on a fairly quiet road), indicated
where necessary etc, whereas the unmarked car had to cross lanes on
the dual carriageway often at the speeds he was doing. I argued that
at 130mph he was at the limit of his vehicle's capabilities, whereas
my Blackbird had plenty in reserve and was built to travel safely at
these speeds. No other road users were compromised by me, but as I
left the road at a small exit (no sliproad) the video shows the police
car stopping in the main carriageway, smoke pouring from the tyres.
They were unable to stop before the exit, so reversed back along the
main carriageway, causing lorries to pull out to overtake. Looked
more dangerous than my driving, so we pleaded guilty to the earier
vascar reading of 94mph and argued the dangerous driving charge, since
my solicitor found a (Scottish) case where it was succesfully argued
that speed in itself doesn't constitute dangerous driving. We
requested that the DPS viewed the video to agree/disagree with our
view, and over a years worth of adjournments they never did look at
the video. In the end the magistrates got fed up with them.

At the final hearing the DPS requested another adjournment, which was
about to be given, since their main witness hadn't turned up (the
police driver), but my brief argued that the case should continue that
day as I had religiously attended many hearings over more than 9
months and that if I hadn't turned up the case would have proceeded in
my absence. They agreed and the DPS pulled out. I was left with 6
points and £150 for the 96mph, and a copy of the video, which makes me
look quite good but my arse looks too big on the Blackbird

 

.... which you're going to upload onto YouTube for us all to enjoy?

HVB

 

Actually, I would if I had the means of getting from VHS to digital.
It's not like they can nick me again...