What say the FOAK about "special" tyres?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Gyp, Oct 17, 2009.

  1. Gyp

    Gyp Guest

    Chap I know has one of those Yam 250 Supermotard thingies; WR250X?
    Basically a flat as a bastard 250 4-stroke single in an off-road coat.

    Anyway, despite the complete lack of power, it's got ubergrippy tyres
    which wear at a phenomenal rate. Said chap has got the rear to the wear
    marks in 3k miles, which is pretty impressive bearing in mind that he
    makes me look like Rossi.

    He's asked the supplying dealer to get him the same tyre again, but it
    seems there's none in the country, and the dealer doesn't want to supply
    an alternative as the tyre is made specifically for that bike...

    I'd suggest simply getting something in the right size, but he's nervous
    after the comments from the dealer. What say the FOAK?
     
    Gyp, Oct 17, 2009
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    Pete Fisher Guest

    Not the same state of tune as a proper WR250F then?
    The only reference I can find is to them coming with BT090s. Are they
    that special?

    Unless he is backing it in to roundabouts on a regular basis I'm with
    you.



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  3. Gyp

    Gyp Guest

    I took it out for a spin a few weeks ago. I'd sort of hoped that it was
    a TDR with 20ish years of development and was hugely disappointed. Yes
    it looks the part, but the engine...
    They're good, but unnecessary.
    He does, but it's due to inexperience and lack of foresight.

    I'd happily ride it on granite circles as I'm sure they'd offer more
    grip than the engine needs, but I take it that the insurance company
    won't get fussy as long as the tyres are roughly the right size??
     
    Gyp, Oct 17, 2009
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    Pete Fisher Guest

    I wouldn't have thought so, as long as they are the same speed rating.
    Might be different in Germany or is it Switzerland where someone once
    told me (almost certainly incorrectly) that you have to use OEM tyres.
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    Pete Fisher, Oct 17, 2009
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    Gyp Guest

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    Pete Fisher Guest

    Blimey. It is a bit specific isn't it. What does the 'G' stand for -
    Gum-coated?
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    wessie Guest

    Bridgestone seem to do that a lot with Jap bike makers i.e. have a suffix
    that is model specific. Marketing ploy IMV.

    This WR250X seems to make 30PS. It wouldn't worry a pair of Avon
    Roadrunners, although Avon list Roadriders as their recommended fitment.
    http://www.avon-tyres.co.uk/motorbike/wr-250-x

    Personally, assuming the front is going to be okay for a while, I'd risk
    fitting a £75 BT45 and see how that went. If it did not match the front
    BT090 then I'd bin that and fit a BT45 on the front to match the rear.
     
    wessie, Oct 18, 2009
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    Ace Guest

    Ace, Oct 18, 2009
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    wessie Guest

    I didn't make my point very well. The bike manufacturers should be able to
    make their bikes work with generic tyres. After all, they have to do this
    in racing where there are control tyres. Although, I imagine changing the
    spec. of a tyre is often cheaper/easier than re-engineering the chassis
    e.g. losing 10kg from a lardy old tourer might be more difficult than
    asking Bridegstone to make a reinforced version of their sports touring
    tyre. Bridgestone are happy as they make more money from special tyres and
    the manufacturer advertises their ****-up as a technology advancement.
     
    wessie, Oct 18, 2009
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    ogden Guest

    I've got 090s on the RGV. They're astounding.
     
    ogden, Oct 18, 2009
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