The only difference between a slow and a fast wheelie is that the slower you go the smoother and more relaxed you have to be. The actual technique itself is exactly the same - you just have a dramatically reduced room for error. -- Veggie Dave UKRMHRC#2 BOTAFOF#08 IQ 18 FILMS http://www.iq18films.com POST PRODUCTION http://www.iq18films.co.uk Toxic Shock Syndrome Gets More Girls Than Me
They do. They're just old oil-cooled GSXR1100s with smaller carbs (2mm smaller IIRC), header pipes, lower profile cams and diaphragm clutches. -- Veggie Dave UKRMHRC#2 BOTAFOF#08 IQ 18 FILMS http://www.iq18films.com POST PRODUCTION http://www.iq18films.co.uk Toxic Shock Syndrome Gets More Girls Than Me
Oh, ta. So my point was valid for B12s, which were uppermost in my mind when I originally posted, though for some reason I didn't extend the logic to FI bikes.
Diaphragm clutches? You are supposed to be listing differences, not similarities, between Bandits and oil-cooled gixxers.
Funny, my oil-cooled GSXR11 definitely isn't a diaphragm clutch. Now, the GSXF11 (Powerscreen) also has a diaphragm clutch. -- Veggie Dave UKRMHRC#2 BOTAFOF#08 IQ 18 FILMS http://www.iq18films.com POST PRODUCTION http://www.iq18films.co.uk Toxic Shock Syndrome Gets More Girls Than Me
Further investigation shows that the last few oil-cooled models were diaphragm clutches ('91 and '92 from what I can find) while the earlier ones aren't. -- Veggie Dave UKRMHRC#2 BOTAFOF#08 IQ 18 FILMS http://www.iq18films.com POST PRODUCTION http://www.iq18films.co.uk Toxic Shock Syndrome Gets More Girls Than Me
How odd. I have an '89 GSXR11 and that's a spring clutch. I wonder what model it is then. -- Veggie Dave UKRMHRC#2 BOTAFOF#08 IQ 18 FILMS http://www.iq18films.com POST PRODUCTION http://www.iq18films.co.uk Toxic Shock Syndrome Gets More Girls Than Me
You must know what model it is. It may have been converted if a 'K'. http://oldskoolsuzuki.info/index.htm?patrick/articles/clutch_conversion_by_lee/index.htm~main or http://www.debben.co.uk/cgi-bin/sh0...x.html&WD=ppks1100&PN=GSXR1100.html#a206#a206
This I have noticed. You do seem to have got hung up on some pretty trivial point for no other obvious reason.
Not my intention, rather, it seemed to be yours to argue the **** out of some very trivial point. I don't buy that "anyone who has ever met me..." bollocks from your other post either. Oh do stop acting the arsehole. Right, here goes: Your problem seems to be with the revs, not the fact that an engine behaves slightly differently depending on whether it's burning fuel or not on the overrun. Is that so? If not, then what exactly is your problem? Assuming that its' the revs thing, I'll continue. Are you saying that the extra drive that the slight drive an engine might get from a closed throttle will vanish completely at higher revs? I think the effect *might* be less noticeable at higher revs, but I don't think it would disappear entirely. If you want to claim that as a climb-down then fill yer boots. The reason I cited the 2000rpm figure (it's actuallt the spec. for that bike) was simply because I had a clear correlation between the FI cutting in and the engine drive increasing, not any partiular reason for it to be a low-rev phenomenon. I originally posted my comment because I gather that a bike in a stable wheele will be quite sensitive to any slight changes in drive, so I figured that under those circumstances, the slight difference *could* be rather more significant. Happy now? If I've missed your point or you still "can't understand", which I really don't believe, then feel free to call me a troll, 'cos I really CBA to continue this.
I can relate to this. The gap seems huge especially when they sail past you. -- www.MollyG.net ZX10R; GS500E, GSX600F (Feisty Racing Colours http://www.sportsbike.org/pink.jpg ). GHPOTHUF#27 TGF, UKRMFBC#7, BOTAFOF#11, YTC#9, GYASB#1. SbS#23. DFWAG#2, DS#2, DIAABTCOD#20. remove "thisbit" in the reply http://www.Sportsbike.org
On less powerful bikes I've used the back brake method to wheelie, if you know what I mean. What's your views on using the back brake to help loft one?
OK, it's gone, but that's not really important; businesses come and go. Cutting through the ranting, it would appear that the you did not agree with the approach that was being taught. And as you're not complaining about the others, it would appear that you are happier with their approach All I did was describe my rather enjoyable day out and the approach to wheelieing that was taken on that day - low speed balance point wheelies I don't know if what was being taught was the right technique, or if it led to unsafe wheelies on the roads. Whatever, I couldn't wheelie before, and I can't wheelie now, but for an experience day, I wholly enjoyed it.
It's incredibly hard to get it right and takes a lot of practise and co-ordination. I've only had to use it on a restricted 50 [1] which needed all the help it could get to loft. A lot of guys use it for standstill launches but I've found my CBR doesn't need the extra help the rear brake bounce gives ... thankfully. It's a proper old school technique from the days when bikes were heavy and had, relatively speaking, little power. Jimmy Fireblade teaches this technique at his school. [1] In the end it was easier to launch it from a standstill than try and bounce it when the bike was moving. Sadly I got no footage of me on the bike when I got to the point where I was really happy riding it, but this was shot a couple of days after I got it: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1521 111710 -- Veggie Dave UKRMHRC#2 BOTAFOF#08 IQ 18 FILMS http://www.iq18films.com POST PRODUCTION http://www.iq18films.co.uk Toxic Shock Syndrome Gets More Girls Than Me
I've got to get permission to use that song on the next DVD. -- Veggie Dave UKRMHRC#2 BOTAFOF#08 IQ 18 FILMS http://www.iq18films.com POST PRODUCTION http://www.iq18films.co.uk Toxic Shock Syndrome Gets More Girls Than Me
How about one where the ignition is cut when the throttle is wide or at least well open, would pumping losses have any bearing? -- +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pete Fisher at Home: | | Voxan Roadster Gilera Nordwest Yamaha WR250Z | | Gilera GFR Moto Morini 2C/375 | +-------------------------------------------------------------+
