Where do you fill up?

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Brett Johnston, Jun 9, 2006.

  1. I ask because our family's auto mechanic, I guy we've been with for 20+
    years, is telling us Woolworths/Safeway petrol is a little lacking in the
    quality department. He says the Coles/Shell fuel is better, but BP is the
    best in terms of quality. Is there any consensus about this? Have there been
    independent comparisons done?
     
    Brett Johnston, Jun 9, 2006
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  2. Brett Johnston

    Uncle Bully Guest

    Sounds like crap to me. How is 'quality' defined and what super scientific
    methods is a grease monkey using to determine this?
     
    Uncle Bully, Jun 9, 2006
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  3. Brett Johnston

    Hammo Guest

    Yes, they all contain carcinogens. Aromatic hydrocarbons and high exposure
    to them are are bad.

    Hammo
     
    Hammo, Jun 10, 2006
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  4. All I was told was avoid discount places and small petrol stations where
    the fuel might sit around and the tanks might not be as clean.
     
    Stephen Calder, Jun 10, 2006
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  5. Brett Johnston

    Hammo Guest

    Not as clean as in contaminated, or adulterated?

    Hammo
     
    Hammo, Jun 10, 2006
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  6. Brett Johnston

    atec77 Guest

    Kev comments ?
     
    atec77, Jun 10, 2006
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  7. Brett Johnston

    J5 Guest

    ok how about when the shotbox transit did a fuel pump due to low quality
    diesel

    the diesel mechanic which had all the whizbang gear told me that they had
    done fuel testing
    on all fuels available and said to use BP 1st and Shell 2nd as when tested
    they found these
    to be more consistent in quality than the others

    Quality being levels of ingredients that are supposed to be in fuel , octane
    levels etc

    either way i have changed vehicle and still stick with BP where possible and
    find better fuel
    consumption in the rodeo than other brands

    YMMV
     
    J5, Jun 10, 2006
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  8. Not as well maintained and therefore not clean of the kind of rubbish
    that might accumulate, entering during refills over time.

    Not sure of the difference between contaminated and adulterated.
     
    Stephen Calder, Jun 10, 2006
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  9. Brett Johnston

    Boxer Guest

    Contaminated is accidental, adulterated is not.

    Boxer
     
    Boxer, Jun 10, 2006
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  10. Brett Johnston

    Uncle Bully Guest

    So how much did you pay for your BP shares?
    Oh and feel free to post the results of said tests anytime you like. No
    point arguing over heresay and conjecture :)
     
    Uncle Bully, Jun 10, 2006
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  11. Brett Johnston

    J5 Guest

    water , dirt versus added ethanol and other shit
     
    J5, Jun 10, 2006
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  12. Brett Johnston

    Will_S Guest

    local pub
     
    Will_S, Jun 10, 2006
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  13. Brett Johnston

    J5 Guest

    i dont have any shares whatsoever , can fuel at any servo and costs me
    nothing
    since i have a work car with a supplied fuel card :)
    I have the rodeo which does around 400k per tank and this for me is 2 days
    driving

    As you might expect i hate fueling every 2 days and hate to fuel any more
    often than i have to
    so i keep a close eye on how many kays per tank that i get

    My experience with the rodeo is when i dont fuel at BP i lose 40K or so to
    the tank

    I have tried all the brands , all the octane levels to find what will give
    me the furthest kays per tank

    feel free to run your own controlled experiments

    next time Bullly neglect to snip 'YMMV'
     
    J5, Jun 10, 2006
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  14. Brett Johnston

    Rocatanski Guest

    Go and watch your local Terminal plant, the Mobil one I pass each day to and
    from work has Mobil, Liberty, independents, Toll and Caltex trucks rolling
    out each day.
    Caltex is Safeway so it must be the what they use in Melbourne there is only
    one refinery in the west or Shell in Geelong to supply the petrol needs.
     
    Rocatanski, Jun 10, 2006
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  15. Brett Johnston

    Hammo Guest

    Really? What sort of whizz bang gear? They have a shop mass spectrometer
    and 300 NMR?
    So qualitative and quantitative?

    Hammo
     
    Hammo, Jun 10, 2006
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  16. Brett Johnston

    Hammo Guest

    I wasn't sure if you were suggesting not clean = water, silt, i.e.
    Non-chemical additives, or, adulterated, diluted by the addition of other
    aromatic or aliphatic chemicals?

    Hammo
     
    Hammo, Jun 10, 2006
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  17. Brett Johnston

    BGN Guest

    It's been a source of discussion here in England for a while. Tesco
    is a large supermarket here and owns a chain of petrol stations. Tesco
    petrol is normally the cheapest of all of the suppliers by a couple of
    pence a litre. Tesco petrol is also considered one of the lowest
    quality even though the legal minimum octane rating of petrol in the
    UK is 95 RON (Super Unleaded and things like Shell Optimax are
    normally 98 RON)

    <http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?lnk=hpsg&hl=en&q=group:uk.rec.motorcycles+Tesco+petrol+quality>

    It's all swings and roundabouts. To most people petrol is petrol. As
    long as the car goes when they put some in they're happy. I think the
    problem is that people with high performance cars will sometimes
    notice that the vehicle runs a bit more sloppily on lower quality
    petrol. I notice that my new Nissan Almira Tino 1.8 (certainly not a
    sporty car) displays 'pinking' on some cheaper brands.

    My Kawasaki says it runs on anything from 92 RON upwards (probably the
    gloop that they sell in America?) so I just stick whatever's cheapest
    in it and never notice any difference.
     
    BGN, Jun 10, 2006
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  18. The first.
     
    Stephen Calder, Jun 10, 2006
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  19. Brett Johnston

    G-S Guest

    There was some small scale testing done a couple of years ago of a small
    number of discount and name brand servo's.

    The 2 discount chains ended up showing the lowest octane ratings for
    each class of fuel (the differences were minimal however).


    G-S
     
    G-S, Jun 10, 2006
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  20. Brett Johnston

    Knobdoodle Guest

    My main problem with the Supermarket ones is that they seem to use very
    small litres!
    I often get 50 litres into the 48l car tank or 23l into the 22l bike tank
    and I even got 12l into the 10l mower-fuel can the other day.
    I'm back to using Shell.
     
    Knobdoodle, Jun 10, 2006
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