Where that our money goes...

I'm getting effectively free fuel between last and my car's first
birthday next month.. then I'll go back to paying about 37c/litre for
98RON premium.

Nev..

 

Sounds good to me. "Moran's Measure"?...

 

In
"So why aren't you doing that? A bit like sledging aborigines, isn't it.
Lots
of people tell me aborigines get this, get that, gov't pays for everything,
but I've never met anyone who wants to be one."

"anyone" refers to one of these "Lots of people tell me aborigines get this"
not other people."

Oblivious? Me? Well yeah.

Theo

 

Where do I sign up? .... oh, hang on, I am retired.

Johno

PS - plus you drink a shit beer GS.


Real beer mate?

 

"Moron's Measure" more like it. (referring to the judgement of the
person quoting ACA or TT as 'evidence')

Nev..
'03 ZX12R

 

OK, "Moran's Moron Measure"

Moike

 

I thought you were putting the boot in by being deliberately offensive as
part of the sledge.

I thought it might have been part of the schooling as Moike repeated the
term in the next post or so.

As culturally savvy as I thought you were, you may like to reconsider
calling Indigenous peoples "aborigines". It's disrespectful to put it
mildly.

Hammo (with CCPIAH)

 

Crap. There is no more legitimate collective name for the broad range
of Australian aboriginal people.

If you like you can use "indigenous" to refer to those people sometimes
called Koori, (a name that really only applies to a limited group, but
like dot painting and the didgeridoo, seems to have been adopted by a
much wider group in recent years) or 'aboriginal', or even 'native'.

However "indigenous" is not a very precise description. If you take it
to mean "autochthonal" it misses the mark because there is no evidence
to suggest that the people in question 'originated' here. All the
evidence suggests that they were the last of two or three pre-colonial
waves of immigration.

If "Indigenous" means "native", then I am indigenous.

"Aboriginal" is also somewhat misleading, since it's root meaning
suggests that the people in question 'originated' here.

While I can, with a little effort, come up with a range of disrespectful
terms for descendants of Australia's pre-colonial inhabitants,
"aboriginal" and "aborigine" are certainly not among them.

Moike

 

Moran's Corollary to Godwin's Law perhaps?

GB

 

Geez, you're a picky bastard GS,no wonder you can't find anyone. What
about the rest of us who have been booked repeatedly for speeding in
the distant past (before I worked out how to stop getting booked ?

JL
(if you draw a line over 1992 I have a great driving record, the 80's
however...hmmm not good)

 

Well, you're the one trying to draw the conclusion on that basis not
me, in fact in the bit below I point out that it's basically
irrelevant. Simple fact. There's bugger all correlation between GDP
growth and pop'n growth - very very weak at best.

You're confusing your terms sunshine. GDP growth is a measure of the
economic change over time, it is by definition the traditional
measurement of economic growth (although it is seriously flawed as a
measure, email me if you want more details and I'll send you some
articles)....

GDP per capita is actually a very relevant measure, it considers
whether there is a bigger slice of pie for each person available,
rather than a growth that simply maintains the status quo (reminding
you your thesis was that you need pop'n growth for economic growth).If
you grow the economy at the exact same rate as the pop'n then you might
as well have zero growth in both - no one is better off.

One of the very serious flaws in the GDP growth is good mentality is it
ignores quality of life. Do you realise that one of the quickest ways
we could create some growth would be to remove barriers on industry
polluting. Make it a pretty shitty place to live though, which would
increase the economy more as people got all sorts of esoteric diseases
and then spent money into the medical sector...

JL

 

I assume the smiley means you wouldn't like to see that happen ? Not
surprising if so given your industry.

I personally think the fuel excise should be increased with a rebate
for anyone earning below a certain amount per annum (say 20K) as low
income earners tend to pay a disproportionate amount of their income on
fuel expenses (due to the poor public infrastructure in poorer areas).

Two reasons for upping the excise, one we have about the 5th cheapest
fuel in the world so it will discourage uneconomical use to some
extent, two, social engineering - we've made car use the cost effective
means of travel, get people out of the habit of using a Land Cruiser
or HSV to get to the shops and work, it makes public transport and
motorcycles more cost effective, and the more people taking one of
those two options the fewer fuckwits in cages trying to run me down,
not to mention if we could get the cage only idiots to start riding
their driving skills would improve immensely

JL

 

You tell 'em Moike. You ain't a racist!!

Hammo

 

You're kidding. We now have to call aborigines indigenous? Indigenous does
not relate to a country or even people, so to use the word you need to add
the qualifiers 'Australian' and 'people'. I had no idea that indigenous
Australian people found the word aborigenes offensive.

I went to school long before PC was invented.

Theo

 

In this case and on this subject, you're full of shit Hambone.

Theo

 

I gave you too much credit.....

Apparently so.

I don't make nor enforce the rules, just pointing out some aspects of
cultural safety.

I had my opened to many things during a recent placement and was
particularly glad during one aspect of the rotation.

....but you are still there, yeah?

Hammo

 

It's Ok. I can understand your embarrassment at having something like this
pointed out by me.

If only I knew how to use a smug emoticon.....

Hammo

 

Hamish Alker-Jones wrote:

and > >

Crap Hammo.

No need to be smug Hammo. Supercillious will do.

Theo

 

Sure. Some things I was taught by rote. Would you like to hear the rote
teaching for the electrical colour code, circa 1965?

Theo

 

Eh, he is?

Don't know how to do that one either!

Super-Hammo