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Weather may stil be nice. What bike wil she be on ? How are you getting there in the 1st place ? Get a ferry from Rotterdam to Harwich Go to Norway when you get board of trees. Only you two can answer the question, some people are happy with 200 miles, some 400, some more. Start at 250, See how she feels ride 2 or 3, stop in a nice place for a day and carry on. Oland is a nice place to stop Stuff you don't like
Oh yes it is, but utterly worth it.I've only been once and needed a few minutes in the quite room at the end of their museum. Followed this by being at the Menine (crap spelling) as they played whatever it is they play at sundown. More quite time required. Puts everything else into perspective. Brian
I'd say 500 miles in Sweden is do-able coz there's bugger all traffic to stop you goping forwards. I'd aim to reach somewhere between Linköping and Jonköping on the first day, then on day 2 head for Malmö and the Öresund bridge into Denmark. Two choices now. Ride down to Rodby in the south and ferry acros to Boxheadland. (It's about an hour or so on th' ferry). Find somewhere to get your head down when you get to Boxheadland, (end of day three if you've been "moving along", end of day 4 if you've been steady) then head down to Hamburg and turn right towards Bremen, or go straight on for Hanover. I'd finish this day off (4 or 5, depending) in Bremen and hope you don't stop at the place I did and get accosted by a huge German munter with a face like Danny DeVito. If you went the Bremen route, keep on heading weat until you pop into Holland, then follow the coast to either ferries at Ijmuiden or the Hoek, or continue down into Belgium and head for th' tunnel. I managed Ijmuiden to about 100 miles short of Stockholm in 2 and a half days, so your trip is entirely possible in your alloted time. I don't go any further soutth that Ijmuiden, so I can't help you there. I did fairly big miles on all days, but there's nothing to stop you taking time out to do a bit of sight-seeing if that's your thing. Might make the trip more bearable too as sore arse syndrome aint good for the soul. Fuel and food. There isn't a lot of autobahn miles and they at least give you a chance to hammer the **** out of the bike with little risk. -- Beav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19
I couldn't go there without expecting to see a couple of Irish hitmen have a day off -- Beav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19
A 600 bandit. Ferry harwich - esbjerg, then 2 days haring it to Stockholm via as little of Denmark as possible Sounds like a plan. We'll be seeing how I feel too! We're aiming to sail there next year. Thank you. Does it taste good? Acksherly, I'm guessing we should cook it first rather than eating it through the visor? Yeah, I know. Stoopid question. I was aiming for getting other people to start remininscing about their experiences which would sort of point me in the right direction. I'll try not to do it again.
OK. Thanks for the detail down to there though. I hadn't actually realised there was that much of it. We may have to either extend the holiday or shorten the trip home by heading to a closer ferry port. Too true.
Sweet! Ii was half-planning to buy a Hayabusa and ride from London to Helsinki for mid-summer in 2002. Life got in the way. Have a good trip. heh
If he's heading down to the UK, he won't be going anywhere near Norway. Not since last year. The only ferries going to Scandinavia now are going to Denmark, but Holland is the most common ferry port and that's not even in Scandinavia. -- Beav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19
I did this trip back in the 1980s: across to Helsingborg in Sweden, Some things have changed slightly since then and Denmark now has bridges (although only in the 'east-west direction' so far...) Sweden-Denmark: Bridge/tunnel across/under Oresund, from Malmoe to Copenhagen (E20) Price: 21 Euro/motorcycle. http://www.oresundsbron.dk/frontpage/?lang=1 Seeland-Fyn: Bridge across Storebaelt, from Korsor to Nyborg (E20) Price: 16 Euro/motorcycle. http://www.storebaelt.dk/english It is still possible sail from Sweden to Denmark - fx. Helsingborg to Helsingor (E4 to E47) The ferries sail very frequently (every 20 minutes during workdays) and the trip isn't much longer than that. Price: 19 Euro/motorcycle. http://www.scandlines.dk/DKFront/Front_COM The trip from Sweden though Denmark to Germany via the two bridges is really smooth - and IMHO quite uneventful and unfortunately equally uninteresting (unless you stop in Copenhagen!) Not counting fuel stops, it will probably take you a little more than three hours to travel from Sweden to Germany through Denmark (east on E20 and south through Jutland to Germany on E45). Should you decide to sail from Denmark to England, you simply stay on the E20 which will land you in Esbjeg, where DFDS Seaways will happily (and quite expensively) take you to Harwich. Other things to consider: The swedish landscape is a lot more varied, interesting and downright "pretty" than the flat danish boring fields with the occasional small forest, clump of trees or small lake thrown in. (There are slightly interesting areas in Denmark as well, but they aren't exactly on the transit route...) Currently it is a lot cheaper to travel in Sweden than Denmark. Swedish money (referred to in Denmark as "swedish rubles") doesn't cost a lot right now compared to the danish currency - and hotels are cheaper in Sweden as well. They have INSANE ticket rates for speeding in Sweden. Even speeds only slightly above the posted limits, will some places (fx. inside city zones) land you a ticket of 4-5000 SEK (~450 Euro.) (http://wikitravel.org/en/Driving_in_Sweden) I'll let somebody else take it outside 'my' borders shall I..? Enjoy the trip!
Dunno, I stopped in time Ah, Ok http://www.ytc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Scan2003/scand2003.html http://www.ytc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Norway2005/Norway2005.html
Thank you for that. I shall take note of the speed limits then ) Now we're really in the planning stage I've bought a book and everything! It's beginning to look like we want to spend more time looking around than speeding on homewards past places that really need closer inspection, so it now looks like we may play the whole thing much more by ear and if we like somewhere just stop for a day. We know we can get back via Esbjerg at a pinch and that's only 1000km on the main roads. Needs more thought!
Oh, all right then. If you insist! I'll go as soon as we get there. Or a little before. Can you wait until I get back for a report or do you want me to write up a blog while I walk around the museum? )
Norway's even worse. Think of North Wales compared to Sweden's Italian attitude... We stayed with some friends north of Bergen the other summer - he'd been nicked for about 15kph over an 80kph limit, on an open road outside town. ~600 quid fine. Or 14 days. No, not fourteen day _ban_. Fourteen days _inside_. Strangely, I slowed down a bit after hearing that.
I'm planning on going to Norway next year and the more I think about it the more I'm becoming certain that I'll have to behave for a few days.
