Who own a 10R and a tank cam?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Cane, Feb 25, 2007.

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    Eiron Guest

    A dumb question but I haven't got one of these new-fangled twentyfirst
    century bikes. I presume the speedo is driven from the gearbox as it
    didn't slow down during those long wheelies. So can it be adjusted
    if you change sprocket sizes?
     
    Eiron, Feb 26, 2007
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    Simes Guest

    That dear old chap, Champ tugged on his pipefull of old shag and said:
    To be fair, speedo drives that read off the front wheel can also be
    affected by different tyre profiles - although I suspect that the
    rolling circumference of different makes of front tyre vary by a
    smaller amount than back tyres.
     
    Simes, Feb 26, 2007
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    Krusty Guest

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    Lozzo Guest

    Champ says...
    On Saturday Danny's 10R with modified gearing was showing 182mph on the
    speedo over the start line at Brands. I think the change in gearing
    might have affected the speedo just a little bit. I told him to just
    whip the speedo sensor out and cable tie it out of the way so the speedo
    doesn't read at all. We'll try that at Donington on Friday to see if it
    affects the engine performance in any way, because we know that some
    ignition systems use the speedo sensor to be fitted as well.
     
    Lozzo, Feb 26, 2007
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    Pip Guest

    Would you like to try that again, in English? I know it isn't your
    first language, but some standards should be maintained, old chap.
     
    Pip, Feb 26, 2007
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    Lozzo Guest

    Pip says...
    Replace the word "use" with "require" and try again.
     
    Lozzo, Feb 26, 2007
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    Hog Guest

    That was a nice straight bat
     
    Hog, Feb 26, 2007
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    Lozzo Guest

    Champ says...
    It's purely for my benefit as his spanner monkey. Removing the sensor
    makes for one less bolt to undo and one less cable to faff around with
    when I'm swopping front sprockets. Cable tieing the sensor away from the
    cover permanently makes the job a bloody sight easier cos the sensor
    does get in the way when I'm working in there and makes getting the
    cover off a pain as the cabling is awkward to hook out of the way every
    time.
     
    Lozzo, Feb 26, 2007
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    Pete Fisher Guest

    http://www.speedohealer.com/eng/intro.htm

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    Pete Fisher, Feb 27, 2007
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    peter Guest

    peter, Feb 27, 2007
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    Lozzo Guest

    says...
    No, it's electronic. There's a sensor on the sprocket cover.
     
    Lozzo, Feb 27, 2007
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    Pete Fisher Guest

    Ah, I should have read your post up there ^^^^ properly.

    If all else fails, a permanent re-gearing on a cable driven speedo bike
    could probably be corrected by the nice people at redial UK who did the
    Tart KPH to MPH/KPH speedo conversion for me. I reckon if given an exact
    percentage figure they could create a custom dial.

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    Pete Fisher, Feb 27, 2007
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Nope. I've been toying with the idea of fitting a 16T front sprocket
    on mine and had already had a look at speedo healers for fitting at
    the same time.

    What I need to do is work out how much I can alter the gearing by so I
    can rev it through to the limiter in top and be right on the 186mph
    point where allegedly the speed limiter kicks in. There's no point in
    having revs being wasted at the top end when I can **** with the
    gearing and make the bike faster off the line.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Feb 27, 2007
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    peter Guest

    Doing hill climbs at venues with 64 foot timing lights is very
    informative with regards to the 'launch'. 2 seconds is the target to
    aspire to. I have even managed it a couple of times. Once on the
    Husqvarna and once on the Nordwest. Not managed it on the Tart yet but
    have got within a tenth.

    Paul Jarrett on his R1 and Keith Cooper on the 1200 Suzuki find it
    harder.
     
    peter, Feb 27, 2007
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  15. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Champ
    <nods>

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    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Feb 27, 2007
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    frag Guest

    I can't quite figure out which bit you're agreeing too?

    <snigger>
     
    frag, Feb 27, 2007
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    Hog Guest

    Or you may just have got older and greyer
     
    Hog, Feb 27, 2007
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    Eiron Guest

    It's supposed to be 'The older you get the faster you were.'
     
    Eiron, Feb 27, 2007
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Perhaps I phrased that wrongly. I should have said the ability to do
    stupid things in 2nd and 3rd gears without having to use the clutch.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Feb 27, 2007
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    peter Guest

    64 feet in 2 seconds = 32 ft/s/s acceleration = 1G. All about finding
    just the right amount of grip and not skying it. No 'reaction time'
    involved, you break a start beam as in sprinting. Once the light goes
    green you start when ready. The timekeepers don't like you fannying
    around for too long before going for it though.
    Some of the MX based machines have 'launch control' gadgets that keep
    the forks compressed off the line. The rider lunges down on the forks
    and hooks up catches that keep them compressed. Once they hit the
    brakes for the first bend the forks compress even further and the
    catches release.

    It is reckoned that there is half a second to be gained or lost off
    the line. At big meetings the top ten qualifiers can all be within
    that margin of each other even over a long hill (Loton = 60 seconds
    for riding gods).
     
    peter, Feb 27, 2007
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