Who own a 10R and a tank cam?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Cane, Feb 25, 2007.

  1. Cane

    Simes Guest

    That dear old chap, peter tugged on his pipefull of old shag and said:
    Not quite - more like 21 ft/s/s about 0.6G.

    Still impressive though.
     
    Simes, Feb 27, 2007
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    peter Guest

    Not my strong suits Maths & Physics (got an 'O' level pass at 'A'
    level Physics and only 'O' levl Maths)

    Mixing up average velocity and acceleration aren't I (another hill
    climb paddock myth exploded).
    Shows how important power to weight, traction and, as Champ said,
    weight distribution is.

    Top fuel dragsters can allegedly pull 3G launches though (straight
    line innit).

    The big hill climb cars often dip below the magic 2 and still manage
    to get round bends at amazing rates - I wonder what the lateral G
    forces are.
     
    peter, Feb 27, 2007
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    Eiron Guest

    I'd like to know how you both arrived at those figures.
     
    Eiron, Feb 27, 2007
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    Simes Guest

    That dear old chap, Eiron tugged on his pipefull of old shag and said:
    Acceleration is measured in units/s-2 (units per second per second).

    Accelerate at 21 ft per second per second and at the end of the first
    second you have travelled 21 feet. Then in the next second (the second
    second as it were) you do 21 feet again and accelerate by 21 feet per
    second per second - giving you a total distance travelled of 63 feet
    and a final velocity of 42 feet per second.
     
    Simes, Feb 27, 2007
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    ogden Guest

    Hmm.

    s = ut + (at^2)/2, so from a standing start s = (at^2)/2

    Rearranging that gives a = 2(s/t^2)

    Since s = 64 feet, and t = 2s, a = 2(64/4) = 32ft/s

    Your version only works if velocity is quantised. Accelerating at 21ft/s
    for one second gives you a terminal velocity of 21ft/s, but an average
    speed over that second of 10.5ft/s, not the 21 feet you claim.

    That said, I've probably gone wrong somewhere above, and Ivan or Simon
    will be along in a second to point out where.

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    ogden
    sv650sk5 (chick wheels) cg125 (dead wheels) zx7r (hasn't even got
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    ogden, Feb 27, 2007
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    ogden Guest

    Hmm.

    s = ut + (at^2)/2, so from a standing start s = (at^2)/2

    Rearranging that gives a = 2(s/t^2)

    Since s = 64 feet, and t = 2s, a = 2(64ft/4s^2) = 32ft/s^2

    Your version only works if velocity is quantised. Accelerating at 21ft/s
    for one second gives you a terminal velocity of 21ft/s, but an average
    speed over that second of 10.5ft/s, not the 21 feet you claim.

    That said, I've probably gone wrong somewhere above, and Ivan or Simon
    will be along in a second to point out where.

    --
    ogden
    sv650sk5 (chick wheels) cg125 (dead wheels) zx7r (hasn't even got
    wheels)

    buy tat here: http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZdr.daifQQhtZ-1
     
    ogden, Feb 27, 2007
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    Simes Guest

    That dear old chap, ogden tugged on his pipefull of old shag and said:
    You are probably right - I did quantise it to make it easier (for me).
     
    Simes, Feb 27, 2007
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    peter Guest

    Very simplistic sum involving 64 feet and 2 seconds calculated on a
    totally false premise.

    The correct answer might be available using the equations here:
    http://www.ajdesigner.com/constantacceleration/cavelocity.php

    They relate to constant acceleration though, but in this scenario is
    that really the case? There will be an average acceleration, and over
    just two seconds I suppose that comes to the same thing - unless
    traction is lost and then regained?
     
    peter, Feb 27, 2007
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    Simes Guest

    That dear old chap, peter tugged on his pipefull of old shag and said:
    I think we can say it's quick - life is too short to start calculus
    before tea-time.
     
    Simes, Feb 27, 2007
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    frag Guest

    *ding*

    And for the second second, start v is 21ft/s, end v is 42ft/s, average v
    is 31.5ft/s, giving a total distance travelled in 2s of 42 feet.
     
    frag, Feb 27, 2007
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    Hog Guest

    Well I read it as "barely gets it in before he shoots his load"
     
    Hog, Mar 1, 2007
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