Why AUTOs can be dangerous

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Craig Pearson, Jul 24, 2003.

  1. Craig Pearson

    Neil Gerace Guest

    Why should the tranny kick down at constant throttle, and why should the
    wheels break traction if it does?
     
    Neil Gerace, Jul 24, 2003
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  2. Craig Pearson

    Brett Martin Guest

    Something makes me believe you are being facetious Pat. But you'll get
    them frothing at the mouth nontheless.

    Don't you drive an older Patrol diesel (with autos these are
    nortoriously gutless as is the Econovan and I'm yet to see an effective
    automatic pushbike.

    Cheers
    Brett
     
    Brett Martin, Jul 24, 2003
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  3. Craig Pearson

    Blown_EB Guest

    I agree,

    my auto with a 2 stage shift kit (electronic) does not kick down on constant
    throttle, and if being sensible in the wet, wont break traction even when it
    does kick back. As for a factory auto, you would have no chance of breaking
    traction on a kick down, more so with the electronic boxes, as they change
    gears very smooth, not hard enough to breach traction.

    Now if you drive like me, and let say "not being sensible" then yes, you
    will break traction, and yes, you can lose it, which is to be expected and
    fair enough, but thats not the topic, the topic was "Why auto's can be
    dangerous".... well for the everyday driver, i think they are not
    dangerous.

    I find a p plater in a manual more dangerous, a majority of them seem to
    bunny hop when taking off, and most of the time people nearly run up the
    back of them because of that.
     
    Blown_EB, Jul 24, 2003
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  4. Craig Pearson

    Ron McGrice Guest

    Craig,

    Nothing will help inexperience.
    I have seen no evidence so far to ping autos as dangerous.
    In fact a manual is more dangerous to the inexperienced, the have to
    concentrate on a clutch, gear changes, revs as well as driving.

    Ron
     
    Ron McGrice, Jul 25, 2003
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  5. Craig Pearson

    Dale Porter Guest

    Manual's rock. We were lucky to find a manual EF Falcon, which we currently
    have. Far prefer maunuals over auto's. Not too sure why. Just prefer them. I
    guess it's because you can feel a more direct link from the gearbox to the
    wheels. Alot more responsive than an auto box.

    Pre-selector gearboxes (sorta like an early semi-automatic) are alot of fun
    as well, but a whole different discipline.

    Dale Porter
     
    Dale Porter, Jul 25, 2003
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  6. Craig Pearson

    Dan-- Guest

    Any inexperience person can crash no matter if the car is manual or
    auto. I drive both manual and auto haven't had any drama's driving both.
     
    Dan--, Jul 25, 2003
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  7. Craig Pearson

    paulc Guest

    That's the reason for the P plate. People only learn to do thing properly
    with plenty of pracrtice. The P plate is there to remind you to make some
    allowances for this.
     
    paulc, Jul 25, 2003
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  8. Craig Pearson

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    "Knobdoodle" wrote
    period.....]

    Ya bleeder.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Jul 25, 2003
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  9. Craig Pearson

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    "Scribble" wrote
    Hey, I was there. Never been so disappointed with the combination of
    massive understeer and no-feed-back power steering in my life.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Jul 25, 2003
    #29
  10. If you are doing a "constant speed" into a corner, why would the
    transmission kick down?
     
    Dr Big Maggot, Jul 25, 2003
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  11. Craig Pearson

    conehead Guest

     
    conehead, Jul 25, 2003
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  12. Craig Pearson

    conehead Guest

    Not me. But I'm interested in your automatic motorcycle. Did it have a
    column-shift or a T-bar?
     
    conehead, Jul 25, 2003
    #32
  13. Craig Pearson

    conehead Guest

    god your a knob, knob

    --
    Conehead
    I'll see if I can use gNatalie as bait to cadge a
    ride... [I'm shameless]......Clem


     
    conehead, Jul 25, 2003
    #33
  14. A manual transmission is no help in push starting your car if you have
    a fuel injected one. I know, I've tried it. It doesn't work. No good
    for diesels either.
     
    Ross Wonderley, Jul 25, 2003
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  15. Craig Pearson

    Dan-- Guest


    Huh I've clutch started a Fuel injected car and an old Bedford diesel
    truck and both started although not a good idea to do it all the time
    though.
     
    Dan--, Jul 25, 2003
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  16. Craig Pearson

    BT Humble Guest

    Just as well for me that I chose a carbureted petrol one then, eh?

    Seriously, you pays your money and you takes your choice. Autos and
    cruise control annoy me, so I don't buy them. Your mileage may vary.
    ;-)


    BTH
     
    BT Humble, Jul 25, 2003
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  17. Craig Pearson

    BT Humble Guest

    I managed to push start my fuel injected '88 Corolla (mechanical fuel
    pump) on quite a few occasions, and my dad almost never uses the
    starter on his 1950's vintage Fordson Super Major diesel tractor. No
    glow plugs on that baby either. ;-)


    BTH
     
    BT Humble, Jul 25, 2003
    #37
  18. Suzuki Burgman 650
     
    Richard Camps, Jul 25, 2003
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  19. Craig Pearson

    Greg Stewart Guest

    A manual transmission is no help in push starting your car if you have
    Crap.. I have push started several fuel injected cars.

    Greg.
     
    Greg Stewart, Jul 25, 2003
    #39
  20. Craig Pearson

    Johnnie5 Guest

    you aren't trying hard enough

    if the battery is totally dead then you wont start any type of vehicle
     
    Johnnie5, Jul 25, 2003
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