Why AUTOs can be dangerous

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Craig Pearson, Jul 24, 2003.

  1. Craig Pearson

    Johnnie5 Guest

    the company falcaon had was auto with cruise

    around town you would do 400 kays to a tank if you were lucky

    on the highway with cruise you could do double that
     
    Johnnie5, Jul 25, 2003
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    Johno Guest

    and ruined as well! ;P

    John
     
    Johno, Jul 25, 2003
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    Moike Guest

    I took the opposite approach. My son spent weeks in a deserted carpark
    doing stops and starts, and only when he could get the car moving smoothly
    and on demand, change gears (first and second only) and stop quickly with
    controlled pedal pressure did he venture onto the road. (at which point I
    put him into the hands of a professional instructor so he could learn
    roadcraft from someone with more practice than I have at imparting it.)

    It's just my opinion, but I don't like the idea of someone who is still
    trying to cope with the 'external' environment trying to learn a new
    hand/eye/foot coordination skill out on the road.

    Moike
     
    Moike, Jul 25, 2003
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    1. RAC.
    2. Mate with some jumpleads.
    3. Vespa.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Jul 25, 2003
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    ~
    "Rooned" actually!
    Bloody pomegranites don't understand Aussie literature!
     
    Knobdoodle, Jul 25, 2003
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  6. Old? It's only an 89 model! :p
    With the thunderous roar of premium unleaded cascading down secondaries into
    a proper 4200cc engine too thank you, not chip oil :)
    Econovans gone, work wanted it back when I changed jobs, took my tools so
    they only got half the weight back :)

    Pat
    Brisbane, Australia
    http://homepage.powerup.com.au/~mangey/
     
    Rainbow Warrior, Jul 25, 2003
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  7. LOL, and don't forget trying to see through the flicking hair :)
     
    Rainbow Warrior, Jul 25, 2003
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  8. Craig Pearson

    Clockmeister Guest

    They don't pushstart then either ;-)
     
    Clockmeister, Jul 26, 2003
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    Jamie Guest

    ROFL,,

    it probably had a pushbutton auto....
     
    Jamie, Jul 26, 2003
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  10. Craig Pearson

    Clockmeister Guest

    If the battery voltage is below a certain voltage many fuel injected cars
    won't start, you could push it from Perth to Sydney but start it will not.

    Regards,

    Clockmeister.
     
    Clockmeister, Jul 26, 2003
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    conehead Guest

    I don't think I could, actually. I don't think I'd get it past Lithgow.[/QUOTE]
     
    conehead, Jul 26, 2003
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  12. If the diesel has the older style mechanical injection pump and a mechanical
    lift pump, then no electrical power is required. I have driven diesels with
    no battery in them.
     
    Marvin The Paranoid Android, Jul 26, 2003
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    BT Humble Guest

    I agree, the hills get a bit too steep about then.


    BTH
     
    BT Humble, Jul 27, 2003
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    Neil Fisher Guest

    On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:39:08 GMT, RodP

    [snip]
    Yes - the last sentence I certainly do agree with. That's the problem
    with autos, IMO. You *don't* think, you *don't* plan ahead - why
    bother when you can just push on the appropriate pedal? They promote
    lazy driving, and given the choice, I'll take the manual almost every
    time.

    Neil
    ---
    Neil Fisher / Bob Young
    Thundercords
    personal opinion unless otherwise noted.
    Looking for spark plug leads?
    Check out http://www.magnecor.com.au
     
    Neil Fisher, Jul 27, 2003
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  15. Unfortuneatly "lazy" driving between home and the shops/work is the only
    thing a lot of non-aus.cars drivers are interested in and generally works
    for them, though idiotic driving is also an interest of many.
     
    Rainbow Warrior, Jul 28, 2003
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    Charlie Guest

    mind explaining why?
    how bout if you got a sufficient hill to get the engine (and hence
    alternator) turning over for a while?

    Charlie
     
    Charlie, Jul 28, 2003
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    Noddy Guest

    I'd rather eat shit than drive a manual :)

    Explain to me how an automatic transmission takes car control away from you?
    Only if you're a complete fuckstain, but then a clutch pedal is likely to
    cause you just as much grief if you are...
    This is an *extremely* unlikely scenario :)

    At a constant throttle position, most auto's won't change gear unless the
    engine's load increases, and then it'll only pop into the next lowest ratio.
    Doing so will mostly only effect engine rpm and make no difference to the
    driving wheels.
    For the life of me, I cannot understand how anyone could think driving a car
    with an automatic transmission is more difficult or risky than driving one
    with a manual, nor can I understand how a manual transmission offers "more
    control" in a street driven car.

    As far as inexperienced drivers are concerned, I'd say the reverse is
    true....
    Anyone who can't drive a nail up a cat's arse with a croquet mallet I expect
    :)

    Regards,
    Noddy.
     
    Noddy, Jul 29, 2003
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    Neil Fisher Guest

    Yes, Athol, you *can* drive an auto that way, but with the manual
    transmission you *have to*. Quite a difference - especially when it
    comes to planning ahead. If you forget / are lazy in the auto, it's no
    big deal. Do the same in the manual, and you'll be in the wrong gear,
    possibly stalling / kangarooing etc. and at some stage you *will* have
    to change gears (big block V8's with 4.11 final drives excepted ;-) ).
    V8 'glide? What was 1st good for? 160km/h?
    <weld, weld, file, file, file> Fixed! ;-)

    Neil
    ---
    Neil Fisher / Bob Young
    Thundercords
    personal opinion unless otherwise noted.
    Looking for spark plug leads?
    Check out http://www.magnecor.com.au
     
    Neil Fisher, Jul 29, 2003
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    Dan-- Guest

    LOL! shit Nod I think most of us miss your classic one liners sometimes.
    :)
     
    Dan--, Jul 30, 2003
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    Clockmeister Guest

    Firstly, you need some battery voltage to excite the exciter diodes or the
    alternator is not going to deliver anything (and that goes for any vehicle)
    and secondly, modern day automotive computer systems are protected from
    under voltage which means they simply won't work if the battery voltage is
    too low.

    Thirdly, if there isn't enough kick in the battery to start with, things
    like the fuel pump and injectors won't work... and you default to sneaker
    mode. (ie you're walking pal)

    Fourthly, you need to get the alternator humming to get anything like the
    required voltage to start the thing in regards to the above.

    Errmmm, will that suffice explanation wise?

    Regards,

    Clockmeister.
     
    Clockmeister, Jul 30, 2003
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