Why can't shaft drive bikes countersteer?

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by sanbar, May 27, 2005.

  1. sanbar

    sanbar Guest

    Why can't posters back up their stupid assertions in the body of the
    message? Or is this a troll?
    - sanbar
    sanbar, May 27, 2005
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  2. Waiting for someone to call you for what you are, ?
    a kraut loving faggot
    Craig Sanders, May 27, 2005
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  3. sanbar

    Bill_h Guest

    OK, here goes... I thought it was a well known fact that shafties
    can't countersteer, although the assertion that they can't wheelie is
    a furphy (they can wheelie, but it the physics of the matter make it
    really really difficult).

    Something to do with the coriolis effect apparently. An interesting
    side effect is that as a generalisation (as with water going down the
    sink hole, you can force it to go the other way) in the southern
    hemisphere shafties can't lean into right hand corners, whereas in
    north america shafties can't lean into left hand corners (only right
    hand ones).

    Hope this helps.

    cheers, Bill :)
    Bill_h, May 27, 2005
  4. sanbar

    Moike Guest

    What part of "new" escaped your limited attention?

    Moike, May 27, 2005
  5. sanbar

    DaZZa Guest

    They can't?

    What was that I did on the way to work this morning then? Was the road
    tilted rather than the bike?

    Define "lean into" for me, will ya? Serious question - maybe my
    definitions are wrong.

    DaZZa - wondering if he's doing the impossible, and if so should he
    DaZZa, May 27, 2005
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    Theo Bekkers, May 27, 2005
  7. sanbar

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    He looks new to me Moike.

    Theo Bekkers, May 27, 2005
  8. I can't see the original post, but assuming you're talking about the
    _usual_ old troll, its not so much trolling any more, its more
    _tradition_ these days...

    Hell, people were complaining about it being old 10 years ago:


    Iain Chalmers, May 27, 2005
  9. sanbar

    sharkey Guest

    I've never seem him eat cabbage _or_ chopped liver,
    nor play the bassoon.

    sharkey, May 27, 2005
  10. sanbar

    paul the 2nd Guest

    Sorry to say bill but i have an oilhead boxer (GS) shafty & if you ask it
    to..it can stand on its tail light under throttle before you get across the
    set of lights from a stand still. Its about torque. You do run out of rev's
    pretty quick though so some of my landings leave a bit to be desired. I
    asked that bloke at canungra (suposed to be one of the best BM mechs about )
    & he said i can do it till i need glasses as long as its under throttle...it
    wont really do damage...clutch it & the diff wont be long for the world.

    I used to look at BM riders over the past 25 years of riding &
    think..insipid old crotchety fools...now i am one.

    Why did i take so long to see the light ?

    Paul the II
    paul the 2nd, May 27, 2005
  11. sanbar

    Bill_h Guest


    Bill_h, May 27, 2005
  12. sanbar

    Moike Guest

    I kinda like cabbage, and I have been known to perform in public on the
    e-flat Bombardon.

    Moike, May 27, 2005
  13. sanbar

    David Guest

    Is it April again already?

    David, May 27, 2005
  14. sanbar

    Smee R1100s Guest

    So he's a Kraut loving pile of sticks?
    I don't get it!
    Smee R1100s, May 27, 2005
  15. sanbar

    John Guest

    Hehehe - woooooosh~~


    Can they?
    John, May 27, 2005
  16. sanbar

    John Guest

    If moike is a kraut loving faggot... how come he drinks aussie beer?


    Coopers Moike?
    John, May 27, 2005
  17. sanbar

    G-S Guest

    We aren't knocking the handling ability of BMW's (air-head or
    otherwise), I remember my beemer with pleasure.

    But shaft drives handle differently... as you well know.

    That different 'feeling' is the lack or true countersteering.

    You can push on a Beemer bar and it'll turn... it just won't countersteer.

    We aren't talking about wheelies... of course they can get the front end
    off the ground.

    But shafties can't countersteer!

    G-S (Guzzi V11 LeMans that doesn't countersteer & Kawasasaki ZRX1200R
    that does).
    G-S, May 27, 2005
  18. sanbar

    moike Guest


    Glub Glub

    Ta Mate,

    Another at Mildura?

    moike, May 27, 2005
  19. No need for confusing tautologies, Moike.

    Hamish Alker-Jones, May 27, 2005
  20. So sorry Moike, I haven't been around for that long and by your reply,
    I would guess that you are nothing but a sour kraut now after what I said.
    Craig Sanders, May 27, 2005
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