Why is it sooooooo hot ?

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Charmayne, Nov 3, 2004.

  1. Charmayne

    Charmayne Guest

    Howdy fellow newsgroupies,

    As a new learner rider, with a meshtex jacket and a cross between a road and
    trail helmet. Why is it so hot ?

    I was hoping to feel the air through my helmet hair, the wind on my chest
    etc. But can't wait to get off the bike so I can peel off the jacket and
    helmet. I don't even have my leathers yet !!!

    Does this get any better? Or should I just get used to being in a sauna ?

    BTW I love the riding !!!!

    80km/s on the bike is awesome with my heart in my throat !!!

    Does anyone know where I can get a pink Hi Vis vest to go over my black
    kinda jacket ?

    Oh and 1 more thing. Where does one put thier hand bag on the bike ?

    I've looked and looked, but I'm stumped !!!!



    Anyway I'm off for now

    Go the learner riders !!!! Woooo hoooo

    Charmayne
     
    Charmayne, Nov 3, 2004
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  2. Charmayne

    Charmayne Guest

    Oops I forgot,

    Wish me luck at bingo !!!

    Cheers
    A chuckling Charmayne
    hehehehe

    PS. No I haven't taken my drugs yet !!!!
     
    Charmayne, Nov 3, 2004
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  3. Charmayne

    FuTAnT Guest

    Toughen up ... wait till you wear full leathers in 40deg heat through Sydney
    traffic.

    Cam
     
    FuTAnT, Nov 3, 2004
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  4. Charmayne

    Dave Ello Guest

    ....strapped to a mobile furnace... something like an XX (aaaaagh - no
    wearing shorts on this baby - roasted chicken-legs).

    Never considered a skirt option though...

    Cheers,
    Dave ZZR600 => ST2 (stolen) => '03 XX
     
    Dave Ello, Nov 3, 2004
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  5. Charmayne

    FuTAnT Guest

    Yup, the furnace of my choice was the CBR954RR .... a lovely little number
    that sports a pissweak cooling system. I still say to this day if ever I
    meet the fucken engineer who designed the cooling system I would have no
    hesitation in kicking him up the arse then throwing a bucket of hot water
    over him to to say "now you know what it feels like asshole!"

    Can you tell it really pissed me off?

    Cam
     
    FuTAnT, Nov 3, 2004
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  6. Charmayne

    sharkey Guest

    It isn't. Yet.
    Cam, probably. Although I wouldn't expect a great deal of safety
    out of it ... folks don't see what they don't look for.
    Buy one of those hard plastic top-boxes. They're really good for
    city commuting and as a handbag/satchel repository. Don't mistake
    them for actually secure or anything, they can be stolen easily
    enough despite their fancy locks. Best bet is to buy a wallet
    or purse flat enough to fit in your riding jacket.

    -----sharks with a fringe on top
     
    sharkey, Nov 3, 2004
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  7. Charmayne

    Dave Ello Guest

    Mate - let me know when you track the bastard down. Seems he had a hand in
    the design of same on the XX. Some months ago it was probably close to 40
    deg in Sydney and I was on Parramatta Rd, unable to lanesplit for a while
    for some reason and the damned thing got to 115 deg. I thought the beast
    was about to explode.

    So kick that bloke up the arse a few times from me too will you? :)

    Cheers,
    Dave ZZR600 => ST2 (stolen) => '03 XX
    P.S. I did buy that Nikkor 17-35/2.8 yesterday. Lord knows I shouldn't have
    done it but one look through the thing and I'm in loooove! Now I'll have to
    wash the bike and get busy on making a few well saturated sharp ones....
    (you know what I mean..). ;)
     
    Dave Ello, Nov 3, 2004
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  8. Charmayne

    Nev.. Guest

    Huh? The XX engine is so thoroughly shrouded by plastic bits that you can't
    even see the engine, let alone feel any heat off it, especially in winter when
    you want it !!... Now the 12R on the other hand, with it's engine exposed, and
    the top radiator hose running within a few inches of the rider's right knee
    doesn't suffer from that problem at all.

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
     
    Nev.., Nov 3, 2004
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  9. Charmayne

    Dave Ello Guest

    Pisshead Pete was telling me that you went to extraordinary lengths to cool
    your XX engine by scraping off all the lower fairing (on the road) for
    better ventilation, yeah?

    Mate, clearly you never had to sit on your XX for lengthy periods in 2km/h
    traffic. It's worse with panniers on narrow lanes of course but some of our
    roads here, especially if you're travelling west through Sydney give you no
    lanesplitting chance.

    Cheers,
    Dave ZZR600 => ST2 (stolen) => '03 XX
     
    Dave Ello, Nov 3, 2004
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  10. Charmayne

    Jules Guest

    Yup, the furnace of my choice was the CBR954RR .... a lovely little number
    I think you'll find it's extraordinarily difficult to provide the level
    of cooling required by a high compression, high revving engine in such
    close proximity to a rider without heating up the frame rails, seat,
    rider, etc etc.

    Never ridden a sports bike that was any different. Just get a car with
    aircon ;-)

    Jules
     
    Jules, Nov 4, 2004
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  11. Charmayne

    FuTAnT Guest

    I'd say just a decent radiator might do the trick atleast. It seemed awfully
    pissweak, and the thing heated up far too quickly in general, sweltering
    heat aside. Just my gripe with the bike that's all. Some heat shielding of
    the engine to the spars/fuel tank etc would go down a treat too. If I
    happened to have the bike a bit longer and got an aftermarket exhaust, I
    would have had it ceramic coated to chop out a fair bit of heat too.

    Cam
     
    FuTAnT, Nov 4, 2004
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  12. Charmayne

    Conehead Guest

    The coolest bike (temperature-wise) I ever rode was the oil-cooled R1100RT.
    Even in inland heat the fairing ducted the hot air out the back, and
    stationary it wasn't too bad - in Toy Runs etc where you're sitting still or
    riding slowly it was much much cooler than the water-cooled bikes around it.
    You could tell by the beetroot-red faces on the others.

    In the winter you flipped the levers beside the dash and hot air from the
    oil-cooler flowed up your arms & over your chest. Combined with the heated
    grips and electrically-adjustable screen it was a beautifully-warm bike in
    winter. If it looked like raining heavily I dropped the seat to its lowest
    setting and rarely got wet except for riding slowly around town.
     
    Conehead, Nov 4, 2004
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  13. Charmayne

    mike Guest

    XX? Hot???

    HA!!!!

    On my old T595 Daytona (may it rot in hell forever) the frame would get so
    hot I had to wear leathers because it would burn my leg and arse through
    jeans. Lanesplitting throught traffic with the sound of rattling bolts in
    your ears and the smell of burning flesh in your nostrils. Aaaahh that was a
    bike! A very very very horrid bike ....

    And those are its good points ....

    MIKE
     
    mike, Nov 4, 2004
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  14. Charmayne

    Jules Guest

    I'd say just a decent radiator might do the trick atleast. It seemed awfully
    Carrn ya wimp, it's a sportbike! heat-shield = unnecesary weight!

    Don't ya know those things are racetrack-only these days? Trust me, you
    need lots of ambient heat when you're scooting toward Bass Strait at
    270kmh ;-)

    Plus it's a Honda; how can you expect them to efficiently deep fry the
    rectifier without dobs of very hot air circulating around? Part of the
    design brief, you see...

    Jules
     
    Jules, Nov 4, 2004
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  15. Charmayne

    sharkey Guest

    BMW levers are not "flipped", they are "operated".

    -----sharks
     
    sharkey, Nov 4, 2004
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  16. Charmayne

    Nev.. Guest

    Heatwise, the worst ride I ever had on the XX was following on the Cumberland
    Hwy from Hornsby to Liverpool in the middle of the afternoon on day last
    summer, with panniers. Was the first and only time the temperature gauge
    started to flash, as it does when the bike reckons it's a good time to shut
    down the engine and let it cool down.

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
     
    Nev.., Nov 4, 2004
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  17. Charmayne

    Matt Palmer Guest

    Charmayne is of the opinion:
    Just keep moving. You'll heat up while stationary, but normally some nice
    cooling air should be flowing while moving.
    I sometimes unzip the jacket about half way to get a bit of extra airflow if
    necessary.
    Check the safety shop on Gladstone Ave at Unanderra (about 100m south of
    Five Islands Rd). I dunno if they'd necessarily have them in pink, but if
    they exist I'd imagine they'd have it. Dunno the name of the place, though.
    Tank bag. I like the expandable RJays one. Magnets (and a strap around the
    steering head if you're paranoid) holds the bag to the tank, and then you
    just throw all of your odds and sods (house keys, wet weather gear, etc)
    into the bag and roll on.

    - Matt
     
    Matt Palmer, Nov 4, 2004
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  18. Charmayne

    Knobdoodle Guest

    I don't recall the 595 being particularly hot (I wasn't stuck in traffic)
    but I was on an older 3-series Daytona, stationary in traffic when the fan
    cut in and I reckon I know what the inside of a fan-forced oven must be
    like!
    Far canal!
    Subsequently I bought the half-faired Sprint and never regretted it....
    (OK: I really really regretted the lower footpegs and shit ground-clearance
    but that's not the point!)
    Clem
     
    Knobdoodle, Nov 4, 2004
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  19. Charmayne

    manson Guest

    It's the heat that does it.
    It does get better.....autumn and winter.....
    It's pretty hard work for a while until you get the hang of it.

    Like as not, you are still hanging on with a vice like grip, and
    generally straining muscles, which you'll later be able to relax.
    (This adds to the hot and sweaty feeling.)
    Ah, a black jacket...that doesn't help.

    Try the likes of Gowings and see if you can find a white, long-sleeved
    Tee shirt big enough to wear over the jacket.
    On a long strap round ones waist or ones neck.

    regards,
    CrazyCam
     
    manson, Nov 4, 2004
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  20. Charmayne

    TB Guest

    <snippity snip>

    Easy.. sweat more
    HTH

    TB
     
    TB, Nov 4, 2004
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