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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Krusty, Jun 21, 2010.

  1. Krusty

    Krusty Guest

    Not in 12 months they don't.
     
    Krusty, Jun 21, 2010
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    Krusty Guest

    Didn't feel unduly tight. I might stick a torque wrench on it later
    just out of interest.
     
    Krusty, Jun 21, 2010
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    Pete Fisher Guest

    That's what I thought, particularly given the flexible servicing regime
    some car engine operate on these days.
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    Pete Fisher, Jun 21, 2010
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    I usually end up hammering a screw driver through the oil filter on my
    10R and even after doing that it needs all kinds of violence to remove
    it.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Jun 21, 2010
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    Lozzo Guest

    The canisters rust. I have seen some that have perforated through
    corrosion - they aren't made from very thick steel. The one on my
    Versys has lost virtually all its paint and is looking very rusty and
    that's only been on there 3500 miles and 6 months. Good job it's being
    replaced very soon at the 7500 service.
     
    Lozzo, Jun 21, 2010
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  6. Krusty

    Lozzo Guest

    Got almost the full set here:

    Chain wrench
    Strap wrench
    Snap-On oil filter pliers
    4 different sized oil filter sockets
    Fucking great screwdriver and an 'ammer
     
    Lozzo, Jun 21, 2010
    #26
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    Krusty Guest

    I've never seen one rust, but I've never had a bike with a filter
    sticking out the front collecting shite off the front wheel.
     
    Krusty, Jun 21, 2010
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    Pip Luscher Guest

    On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 19:04:54 +0000 (UTC), "Krusty"

    I have and I have. never been a problem; just looks gash.

    None of my current bikes have such an arrangement, however.
     
    Pip Luscher, Jun 21, 2010
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    Pip Luscher Guest

    That's what I thought; my car's one is supposed to be one full turn
    but it's hard work tightening it that far.

    maybe Krusty's bike has finer threads and/or thicker O-rings than
    most?
     
    Pip Luscher, Jun 21, 2010
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  10. Krusty

    Pip Luscher Guest

    Nope. Though I have a vague idea I did once.
    Wot's one o' dem?
    Two and one fits no filter I use.
    I have a very vague idea I've tried this once. ISTR it worked, but
    I've never found the need subsequently.

    I also have one of those three-legged things. Geat piece of kit for
    losening filters.
     
    Pip Luscher, Jun 21, 2010
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    Beav Guest

    No, it's like a **** off big pair of daft looking pliers with slip jaws.
    It's bloody brilliant though.
     
    Beav, Jun 22, 2010
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    Beav Guest

    You shouldn't use tools to fit them. Hand tight is more than enough if the
    sealing ring has had a smear of oil applied before fitting the filter.
     
    Beav, Jun 22, 2010
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    Beav Guest

    I've just serviced a Suzi SV 650 and if anyone can get two full turns on the
    filter once the gasket had touched the casing, they're a better man than I
    am (Gunga Din). Even using a tool it'd be fucking hard work if not
    impossible and I wouldn't want to be the one to attempt to remove it 4000
    miles later.
     
    Beav, Jun 22, 2010
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    Krusty Guest

    It wasn't impossible. It wasn't even difficult. Very little pressure
    required using a 3/8 ratchet.
     
    Krusty, Jun 22, 2010
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    Eiron Guest

    You *should* use the correct filter socket to fit a filter if you have one.
    Especially if, like my Suzuki, you would have to take the exhaust off to
    get your hand in, or like my previous Toyota where you need an extra
    joint between elbow and wrist, or my old Ducati where the filter is recessed
    like a cock in cold weather so there's not enough to get a firm grip on.

    You don't need to overtighten it just because you can.
     
    Eiron, Jun 23, 2010
    #35
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    sweller Guest

    I have a Facom set - does the job well.
     
    sweller, Jun 26, 2010
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    SIRPip Guest

    I bought one of these:

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/12-Slip-Joint-Oil-Filter-Pliers-Wrench-Removal-Too
    l-/250656445786

    All very similar, I expect. I couldn't get at the Vectra filter
    without something like this and because of its rather odd shape it
    slips in between and behind exhaust headers and downtubes on bikes
    surprisingly easily.

    Because of the leverage possible at the business end it doesn't need to
    be used as intended, perpendicular to the filter, it works just as well
    in line with it, using a big adjustable spanner across the handles to
    provide leverage to rotate it. For the cost, one of the most useful
    tools I've ever bought.
     
    SIRPip, Jun 26, 2010
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    Beav Guest

    They're all much of a muchness. If they work, they're perfect :)
     
    Beav, Jun 26, 2010
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    Beav Guest

    Exactly the same as the Snap-On ones apart from the colour.
    Yep, and strong enough to take abuse where it wasn't intended.
     
    Beav, Jun 26, 2010
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    SIRPip Guest

    Well, they /look/ the same.
    It has, I confess, come in handy for doing odd jobs it was never
    intended to do and hasn't ripped, slipped or turned inside out yet. I
    wish I could say the same for some special-purpose tools costing an
    order of magnitude more.
     
    SIRPip, Jun 26, 2010
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