Will any glue stick bike plastics?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by T i m, Feb 17, 2008.

  1. T i m

    Beav Guest

    Oh no. Do that and the substrate will droop LONG before the rod's hot enough
    to do its job.
    That's how things generally pan out. Experience comes with practice, but
    you've got to practice in the right manner or the (bad) experience just
    keeps on happening.

    The
    You need as few obstacles as possible. That way you can keep the speed of
    the gun/rod constant and also constant pressure on gun and rod.
    Yeah. Works perfectly well.
    I believe that's what it's called, but not being a builder, I'll take your
    word:)
    It doesn't need to be strong as it's only spreading the load out from the
    joint. If the joint is a good one (not going to happen first time though)
    it's not necessary, but a couple of layers will add strength accordingly,
    although not exponentially.

    As you say, that would be very manageable and give a very fine
    I wouldn't use it on the OUTSIDE of the panel. On the outside, all that
    should be required is possibly a light skim of bog (filler) and a couple of
    coats of a decent primer. Flatting the primer should see any ripples
    disappear. Start sticking glass cloth on the outside and the fairing'll look
    like it's got a dose of mumps.


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    Beav, Feb 21, 2008
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    T i m Guest

    Ah, I've done similar with Perspex and I believe Airfix type model
    cement does the same melt_the_two_surfaces thing?. The only 'issue' is
    as yet I haven't found any markings re what plastic it is Beav?
    I've dug that out ready ...
    After applying a touch of silver 2 pack of course ;-)

    All the best ..

    T i m
     
    T i m, Feb 21, 2008
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    T i m Guest

    Yeah, and I was really looking forward to spotting similar marking on
    mine but none found so far .. :-(
    Well, a decent weld might do! ;-)
    Ok ....
    Well, I'm not in a big bike circle as I've only ever been a 'biker'
    for transport (and that was mostly on mopeds when I was 16 then a
    Lambretta SX150 then my Schmitt for a couple of years when I was
    working for BT). Now I normally only ride for pleasure and typically
    with my family (We did go out on one ride out with the BM Club but
    prefer doing our own thing). I generally ride with Daughter pillion on
    my R100RT and the missus on her XV750, or hopefully soon with Daughter
    on her Piaggio ST125 4/. The CB Two Fifty was supposed to be a
    runabout but because of leaky rims I never really used it much. This
    'tidy up' is just to make it a bit more respectable in general and to
    brighten it up at the same time (it's currently dark blue and I hope
    the Daughter may use it as her first real bike post test so would like
    to improve the visibility of it a bit (FWIW) and the tank is showing
    some external rust in places etc).
    I'm sure I could soon learn the skill but I already know how to
    fiberglass and *know* I'm not going to damage / distort the panel at
    all. Also the bike shop suggested there are quite a pew people /
    places doing a welding service now and often have painting facilities
    to go with that.

    All the best ..

    T i m
     
    T i m, Feb 21, 2008
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  4. T i m

    T i m Guest

    Yep, don't leave home without it! ;-)

    All the best ..

    T i m
     
    T i m, Feb 21, 2008
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  5. T i m

    T i m Guest

    Swot I now know ..
    Yup and don't get me wrong, I generally buy the tools and d-i-y
    wherever possible (and partly why I can't get in the workshop atm) and
    should a greater need arise (greater than a 3" long crack in a panel
    currently working fine as-is with a drilled hole and a cable tie) than
    I would get myself geared up to do the welding thing.
    Indeed, and this panel isn't that occasion. It's maybe 4" wide, curved
    and has two 90 deg lips on either end, not a nice open lower panel or
    fairing off a sports bike or scooter.
    BIL dropped a roll off for me today .. thanks for the heads up. ;-)
    Ok .. In the past (when building boats or the fairing for my racing EV
    / 2 wheeler) I would thicken the lay up at the mounting / stress
    points and generally feather them off into the panel (using
    progressively smaller patches of CSM or woven roving etc).
    Nope, I wouldn't, well unless it was a rat bike and then it would be
    part of the character. ;-)
    LOL .. Yup, and although this is 'only' the side panel to an old
    CB250, it's a fairly long, straight, flat (in the longitudinal plane)
    panel and would probably show that sort of thing up very easily (and
    hence my reservations with the welding.) If one of the returns on the
    edges went wrong a change of angle would be very obvious.

    All the best ..

    T i m
     
    T i m, Feb 21, 2008
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  6. T i m

    Beav Guest

    You're more than likely n the posession of an ABS fairing. Most are.
    There ain't no such thing as silver 2 pack. Silver is a metallic paint and
    that's a base coat (acrylic) over which one applies 2 pack clear lacquer.
    You'll learn :)



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    Beav, Feb 21, 2008
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    T i m Guest

    Ok, thanks (so maybe why these basic welding kits come with ABS rods.
    The better kits come with "a selection of 20 different types of
    plastic rod ... " ;-)
    <mutter, bloody pedants mumble> Don't need to Beav, I hand it to my
    mate and go "ug" .. (point noted though) ;-)

    All the best ..

    T i m
     
    T i m, Feb 22, 2008
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