Wireless Networks and XP

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  1. sweller

    sweller Guest

    I have a Toshiba Satellite Pro laptop running XP Pro and it has worked
    with wireless networks quite happily but is normally on the end of a
    wired router at home.

    This was until a couple of months ago when I finally got around to
    changing over to wireless.

    I get this:
    http://www.sweller.dynalias.org/images/wnd/wnd.jpg

    which leads to this
    http://www.sweller.dynalias.org/images/wnd/wnd2.jpg

    It simultaneously detects the network and shows a little red cross in the
    first picture.

    The hardware seems happy enough (I've reinstalled the drivers, no change):
    http://www.sweller.dynalias.org/images/wnd/wnd3.jpg

    So the Toshiba has to stay wired. The other XP laptops/phones/ipods etc
    can all see the wireless router and work quite happily.

    What could the problem be, any solutions?
     
    sweller, Mar 7, 2010
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  2. sweller

    Catman Guest

    Is your wireless SSID being transmitted? What sort of encryption are you
    using on the WLAN?

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    Catman, Mar 7, 2010
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  3. I've had some odd problems with Toshiba laptops with Atheros wireless
    chipsets being unable to see some routers, especially my Cisco, while
    seeing my neighbours' connection fine,but sorry, I've never found an
    answer to that. Other Atheros devices, like my 3Com card are OK, as are
    Intel wireless. I think it just happens that some are incompatible
    sometimes.

    I'd try removing the toshiba configfree if present, remove the wireless
    drivers (rebooting after each step), and then put them back, using the
    setup program for the drivers rather than letting windows use the .inf
    to install. If that's what you've done, sorry, no new ideas, but if
    anyone else has a suggestion, I'd be interested.
     
    Chris Bartram, Mar 7, 2010
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  4. sweller

    RichardA Guest

    I had a similar problem a few weeks ago and this fixed it:

    1.Start -> Run (or Windows key+R)
    2.Type in services.msc then Click the OK button
    3.Scroll down towards bottom of list and double-click Wireless Zero
    Configuration
    4.Stop the service
    5.Set startup type to Manual
    6.Select OK
    7.Reboot p.c.

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    RichardA, Mar 7, 2010
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  5. sweller

    sweller Guest

    The SSID is being broadcast (other devices can see it) and the encryption
    is WPA-PSK [TKIP]

    The laptop used to be able see the neighbours networks (which are visible
    to my phone).
     
    sweller, Mar 7, 2010
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    Catman Guest

    Well it's not that then! I'd go for the zero conf option that others
    have suggested.

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    Catman, Mar 7, 2010
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    sweller Guest

    sweller, Mar 7, 2010
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  8. sweller

    sweller Guest

    I get this:
    http://www.sweller.dynalias.org/images/wnd/wnd4.jpg
     
    sweller, Mar 7, 2010
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  9. sweller

    RichardA Guest

    Ok, does the Toshiba wireless s/w have a setup app included so that you
    can manually configure the connection?

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    RichardA, Mar 7, 2010
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    Dan L Guest

    Dan L, Mar 7, 2010
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  11. sweller

    sweller Guest

    Why Belkin - I have a Netgear router, wouldn't the same manufacturer's
    card be better?
     
    sweller, Mar 7, 2010
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    Adrian Guest

    It shouldn't make any difference - it's all a cross-manufacturer standard.

    Belkin have a reputation for cheap-and-cheerful stuff that doesn't always
    play right. Having said that, I've got a Belkin router at home which has
    been surprisingly reliable.
     
    Adrian, Mar 7, 2010
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    Colin Irvine Guest

    This won't be the most helpful of replies, but Pat had exactly the
    same setup and I had trouble connecting wirelessly to our home
    network. I googled a bit and IIRC the answer was to do with the Zero
    Wireless Configuration and possibly a registry setting. You may need
    to do the same.
     
    Colin Irvine, Mar 7, 2010
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    Dan L Guest

    We had a similar problem with the on board wireless in a Medion laptop.
    The Belkin card worked perfectly.
     
    Dan L, Mar 7, 2010
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  15. sweller

    sweller Guest

    Yes, and it can see the network (and all my neighbours) but I can't get
    it to connect.
     
    sweller, Mar 7, 2010
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    Catman Guest

    So you need to start the zero conf service, follwoing the instructions.
    You *may* have to remove the Toshiba software as well.

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    Catman, Mar 7, 2010
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  17. OK - I had same problem with a Toshiba NB100 Netbook when I
    re-installed XP after I realised the poor bugger didn't have enough
    resources to run Win7 Ulitmate.

    I cannot remember the exact process I went through, but that error
    display has the clue. The Toshiba software (Atheros) is trying to
    control the wireess. I've found it easier to just let Windows do it.
    Disable any Atheros and follow those instructions on the error windows
    as to how to put control back to Windows. It's less fucking around in
    the long run unless you have bought an Atheros driver specifically.
    Mine is working fine here once I just went back to Windows control. It
    was working before very well until I snotted the drive and replaced
    all the drivers, then the Atheros got very picky about what it was
    going to let onboard and even the Toshiba re-install didn't seem to
    work well after that. Just let Windows handle it.

    Kev
     
    Kevin Gleeson, Mar 7, 2010
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    Adrian Guest

    Well, some of the shonky off-brand shite might not play nicely, but I've
    never had a problem with mixing brands.

    Yes, there's proprietary extensions - Netgear's 108Mbps - that's single-
    brand, but anything that claims to be 802.11b/g/n should play perfectly
    well with anything else.
     
    Adrian, Mar 7, 2010
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    rick Guest

    I recently tried to add an Asus Netbook to my network. I had no joy and then
    found that my main laptop wouldn't link either (even though it had been fine
    for a year or more). Both devices were seeing the network but would not link
    up. The solution was that somehow my Lynksys router had mysteriously
    switched to channel 6 - when I changed it to channel 9 everything suddenly
    worked.

    Hth.
     
    rick, Mar 7, 2010
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    frag Guest

    sweller took a blunt brush and painted...
    I suspect Toshiba have installed their own WiFi manager software.

    Either use that to configure and control the connection, or find the option
    in the Toshiba software that lets Windows control the WiFi connection, or
    uninstall the Toshiba WiFi software.

    Doing the latter may also uninstall the drivers, so make sure you're
    connected to the net via wired LAN as Windows will need to go re-install the
    WiFi drivers (but not the Toshiba WiFi control app).

    Last resort is to uninstall all the Toshiba WiFi crap, post the VEN_ and DEV_
    (vendor and device) codes for the WiFi chipset (from device manager) and
    someone here can identify the WiFi chipset and point you to the correct
    drivers.
     
    frag, Mar 7, 2010
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