Wiring-in accessories

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Jeremy, May 12, 2006.

  1. Jeremy

    Jeremy Guest

    The power supply lead for my PDA has a cigarette lighter-type plug on
    one end. What I want to do is wire in a socket, probably under the seat,
    and then cable-tie the lead at necesary points to get the lead up to the
    handlebars.

    I guess I need:
    1) the socket and wiring (Maplins 99p for the socket)
    2) cableties
    3) to know where it is sensible to wire the new socket into
    4) lots of insulating tape
    5) 1/2 a brain

    3 and 5 are causing the most trouble at the moment. Anyone out there
    wired in any acessories on a Sprint ST?


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    Jeremy, May 12, 2006
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  2. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Jeremy
    6) a fuse.

    With one of those in line, and assuming you're not fussed about the
    supply being ignition-controlled, just go straight back to the battery.

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  3. Jeremy

    dwb Guest

    I would concur with all of this. Somewhere in the depths of Google
    there is a thread where I asked this same question and got some good
    answers.

    On my Strom, running off the battery I currently have 2x Power sockets
    (of which I use one for the GPS, similar in concept to what you're
    thinking I guess) , 1x Optimate connector, oh and the bike.

    Each of the power sockets has a blade fuse holder (and the fuse) wired
    into it and cable tied neatly in place.

    The heated grips are wired (I think into the rear light circuit, I
    didn't install these[1]) to an ignition controlled switch.

    The socket you get from Maplin doesn't always make the best
    connections, so be prepared to use some of your insulating tape to keep
    the plug in the socket.

    You'll also need a soldering iron if the socket is like the one I had.


    [1] though I did install the second set, and boy can you tell).
     
    dwb, May 12, 2006
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  4. Jeremy

    Jeremy Guest

    I guess this means attaching some kind connecter to the leads from the
    socket which slips over the battery terminals.

    The device takes a 5v input / 2A (I guess the cigarette lighter-style
    plug also houses a transformer) - what rating fuse would I want? 3A?

    Many thanks.

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    Jeremy, May 12, 2006
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  5. Jeremy

    Jeremy Guest

    Combine my soldering skills with native dodgy connections... should be
    uber reliable...


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    Jeremy, May 12, 2006
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  6. Jeremy

    dwb Guest

    Crimp some 'O' type (--=O) connectors on the end - two minute job.
     
    dwb, May 12, 2006
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  7. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Jeremy
    It does. Crimp on connectors would be favourite.
    Depends on the rating of the wire that you use, the rating of the socket
    and what you want to power from it. 3 or 5A should be plenty.

    You're not far from me (North Herts), IIRC. Do you want to pop over one
    evening / weekend and I'll sort it for you? Ten minute job.

    Cheers

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    Wicked Uncle Nigel, May 12, 2006
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  8. Jeremy wrote
    That is probably it's peak load and only ever seen for a few
    milliseconds after initial switch on. Likely the steady draw is only
    three quarters of that.

    Rule of thumb time...

    A melting wire fuse will (theoretically) last forever when passing an
    electrical current less than or equal to it's own rating.

    A fuse will operate at some time between now and infinity if the current
    being passed is greater than its stated operating rating but less than
    (approx) twice said stated operating rating.

    At a current above twice the stated operating rating the fuse will
    operate instantly (for values of instant controlled a little by the laws
    of thermodynamics).

    A techie will select a fuse whose rating is approx twice that of the
    highest normal load to be expected to be passed. An engineer will go
    for the next value above 2.5 unless some extreme safety thing is in the
    equation as well in which case it is a case select the smallest one
    which keeps the kit working until it is off the retailers shelves.
     
    steve auvache, May 12, 2006
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  9. Jeremy

    Jeremy Guest

    Thanks, very kind offer. I am NE Hampshire (as opposed to
    Northamptonshire) so I reckon I'll have a crack myself this weekend - it
    sounds really simple.


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    Jeremy, May 12, 2006
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  10. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Jeremy
    It is. Right up to the bit where it catches fire. :^)

    Put the fuse in the positive lead, as close to the battery as you can
    comfortably get it, and you should be fine.

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    Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha GTS1000
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, May 12, 2006
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  11. Jeremy wrote
    Soldering?? What fucking century does your planet live in? Crimp
    connectors mate, the ONLY answer.
     
    steve auvache, May 12, 2006
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  12. Jeremy

    dwb Guest

    I'd actually give money to see you try and crimp a wire to one of the
    99p sockets from Maplins.

    :)
     
    dwb, May 12, 2006
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  13. Jeremy

    Krusty Guest

    I had to cut a major chunk out of the Tiger's loom a couple of weeks
    ago. This involved snipping off all the connectors at the front of the
    bike (lights, instruments, idiot lights, swich gear, fan, sensors etc),
    then cutting 12-18" off the loom, & re-connecting all the connectors.

    It took around 12 hours of soldering & heat shrinking, but the results
    are worth it. Crimps are for bodgers!

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    Krusty, May 12, 2006
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  14. dwb wrote
    Well apart from the obvious statement that Maplins are hardly leaders in
    new technology roll out to the retail sector, you bring yer money and
    yer connectors and I'll bring me 81's and give it a go.
     
    steve auvache, May 12, 2006
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  15. Krusty wrote
    Calling me a bodger are you sonny?

    Bring it on.[1]




    [1]I was on this training course once and we had to make a radio with
    valves and everything as an exercise in sorting wiring layout and high
    frequency shit.

    After I made mine and got it to work they took it next door to the
    prototype wireman's course to show them how the soldering should be done
    and what loom lacing looks like when it is done proper like.
     
    steve auvache, May 12, 2006
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  16. Jeremy

    Krusty Guest

    Krusty, May 12, 2006
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  17. Krusty wrote
    The list is closed though innit, no ongoing kudos and stuff.


    W!! You call that W?
     
    steve auvache, May 12, 2006
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  18. Jeremy

    Krusty Guest

    Ah fuggit.
    <rotates chair slightly to point other shoulder at sun>

    No, I suppose not.

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    Krusty, May 12, 2006
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  19. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Krusty
    I'm not sure that's true. I got mine quite recently.

    You need that nice Mr Noxgaga, you do.

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    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
    Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha GTS1000
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, May 12, 2006
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  20. Widdershins three times and blow a puff of smoke or something, innit?
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    Grimly Curmudgeon, May 12, 2006
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