Woo-hoo. Employed again!

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by The Older Gentleman, Sep 13, 2005.

  1. Not enough, else they'd have called him Myles.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Sep 15, 2005
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  2. Well, to tell you the truth, when I finished my PhD I had $400
    in the bank and no debts. I figured I was rich -- I could buy a plane
    ticket to anywhere in the world! (Note I said to, no "and back".) That
    despite being born with a wooden spoon in my mouth and existing at one
    stage of my first degree on a $2 note my mother mailed me every week
    (accommodation was already paid for). I guess scholarships were worth
    a bit more in those days (my fees were always covered by scholarships).

    I'd bought a few bikes along the way, too, including some new -- a
    TC185L, a GT380M, and a GS550B as a graduation present to myself.

    Then, my first job was in Adelaide, for the Mawson job, so I didn't
    immediately need the $400, so I bought a 14" colour TV instead. :)

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    Ivan Reid, Electronic & Computer Engineering, ___ CMS Collaboration,
    Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
    GSX600F, RG250WD, DT175MX "You Porsche. Me pass!" DoD #484 JKLO# 003, 005
    WP7# 3000 LC Unit #2368 (tinlc) UKMC#00009 BOTAFOT#16 UKRMMA#7 (Hon)
    KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".
     
    Dr Ivan D. Reid, Sep 15, 2005
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  3. The Older Gentleman

    Ginge Guest

    Heh. My knowledge extends only to the IT industry, so I can't find you
    any cheap trains.

    Service levels based on usability and response times however...
     
    Ginge, Sep 15, 2005
  4. The Older Gentleman

    Ginge Guest

    I suppose a better question to ask, and one which puts things into
    perspective is does your job ever bore you, or is it constantly
    challenging and rewarding?
     
    Ginge, Sep 15, 2005
  5. You want it in octal? £020000 -- even I wouldn't work for that!

    But, no. Unfortunately this isn't Switzerland where academics are
    considered part of the Public Service and paid accordingly (i.e. somewhere
    within shouting distance of commercial rates). Here it's all laid out by
    deadly bureaucrats and fought over tooth-and-nail between unions and
    vice-chancellors. But, as someone said, the conditions are a little bit
    more relaxed. Indeed, some (I don't think I'm one) are allowed to take
    on up to one day a week in paid consultancy. You just don't take the piss
    _too_ much regarding attendance and work results.

    Oh, and the URL I posted about the vacancy in our group was not
    for the post I mentioned above. Nor indeed was the second position
    mentioned as a possibility in that ad. This one will be advertised very
    soon though, to start as early as the end of October, and a knowledge
    of particle physics in itself is not required, as it's for DQM rather
    than discovery physics. Some very relevant experience, comparable to
    a recent PhD's, will be required, though.

    --
    Ivan Reid, Electronic & Computer Engineering, ___ CMS Collaboration,
    Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
    GSX600F, RG250WD, DT175MX "You Porsche. Me pass!" DoD #484 JKLO# 003, 005
    WP7# 3000 LC Unit #2368 (tinlc) UKMC#00009 BOTAFOT#16 UKRMMA#7 (Hon)
    KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".
     
    Dr Ivan D. Reid, Sep 15, 2005
  6. The Older Gentleman

    Salad Dodger Guest

    Get through? $1000 and a few details submitted via a webpage?

    Hardly one of the seven labours of Hercules, is it?
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    |_\_____/_| ..78875.../...19634.../..30836.
    (>|_|_|<) TPPFATUICG#7 DIAABTCOD#9 YTC#4
    |__|_|__| BOTAFOT #70 BOTAFOF #09 two#11
    \ |^| / IbW#0 & KotIbW# BotTOS#6 GP#4
    \|^|/ ANORAK#17 IbB#4 PM#5 WG*
    '^' RBR 2005: Abandoned.
     
    Salad Dodger, Sep 15, 2005
  7. Bore me? No. There are times when I'd rather not go into work,
    but that's part of my current lethargy that would see me sleeping around
    the clock if I didn't have to get out of bed.

    Constantly challenging? Rather! Part of the "problem" of
    becoming an expert (on anything!) is the time you spend fielding other
    people's enquiries and helping them make progress. This week I've spent
    more than 50% of my time helping other people -- and sometimes learning
    something myself in the process (yesterday morning I knew nothing about
    sstream in C++, by lunchtime I was an expert. :) OTOH, the distraction
    from what you'd rather be doing eats into your efficiency.

    Rewarding? Yes, when you pull it off. I find 3 or 4 "miracles" a
    year keeps you in the spotlight and reinforces your expert status. Lord
    knows, though, I desperately need to pull off a miracle in the next few
    weeks, I've been stuck on one problem for far too long at the moment.
    Lacking any real insight, I'm taking the hard, slow slog at it (diagnostic
    print statements everywhere...). But, when I do crack it, a dozen or two
    scientists in our world-wide collaboration will all make the big leap
    forward alongside me. And it will mean a 20-minute presentation at one of
    our regular meetings in Geneva -> more exposure for me and Brunel[1].

    [1] This is important. Our contribution to the collaboration had become
    invisible to the point that people thought we weren't doing much, tho'
    there was a lot of behind-the-scenes grunt work going on. I've changed
    that, and our improved visibilty has been leveraged into several grants
    for new positions like the three we are currently about to fill. Which
    increases our visibility...

    --
    Ivan Reid, Electronic & Computer Engineering, ___ CMS Collaboration,
    Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
    GSX600F, RG250WD, DT175MX "You Porsche. Me pass!" DoD #484 JKLO# 003, 005
    WP7# 3000 LC Unit #2368 (tinlc) UKMC#00009 BOTAFOT#16 UKRMMA#7 (Hon)
    KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".
     
    Dr Ivan D. Reid, Sep 15, 2005
  8. I didn't necessarily mean LU - more generally the "opposite side" being
    procurement and contract management but with a technical edge to it.
    You couldn't do any worse than the baleful idiots we have who procure
    and manage our outsourced IT services.

    I nearly threw my computer out of the window last week. It would work
    faster while crashing three floors down to the street than it does
    powered up on the mains with a network cable in the back.

    I caused a minor chuckle in the office when I said to my guys "I really
    should complain to the head of IM about the PC. Oh dear I can't do that
    because I can't send him an E Mail because my PC isn't working."
     
    Paul Corfield, Sep 15, 2005
  9. The Older Gentleman

    Muck Guest

    Sounds like a scene out of a Dilbert cartoon. Does the IM have pointy
    hair?
     
    Muck, Sep 15, 2005
  10. The Older Gentleman

    Salad Dodger Guest

    Mark and Colin were most intrigued during your conversation last
    Thursday, but have confessed to not understanding a word of it. :)
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    |_\_____/_| ..78875.../...19634.../..30836.
    (>|_|_|<) TPPFATUICG#7 DIAABTCOD#9 YTC#4
    |__|_|__| BOTAFOT #70 BOTAFOF #09 two#11
    \ |^| / IbW#0 & KotIbW# BotTOS#6 GP#4
    \|^|/ ANORAK#17 IbB#4 PM#5 WG*
    '^' RBR 2005: Abandoned.
     
    Salad Dodger, Sep 15, 2005
  11. No - psychotic tendencies is probably a better term.

    You can tell I like him can't you?
     
    Paul Corfield, Sep 15, 2005
  12. The Older Gentleman

    Muck Guest

    Just a little.

    For a week, try repeating the last word of every sentence he directs at
    you, quietly.
     
    Muck, Sep 15, 2005
  13. The Older Gentleman

    PeterT Guest

    <fx: watches this space>
     
    PeterT, Sep 16, 2005
  14. The Older Gentleman

    Ben Guest

    No they weren't making money. Gate's et al were the first bright kids
    to make money out of it and it took them a few years of hard graft to
    get going. Until them and Jobs/Wozniak starting Apple is was all IBM,
    Zerox and the like. Personal computers didn't exist and nobody was
    doing anything other than playing with electronics in their garage.

    Ballmer got into it because Gates was incapable of doing the marketing
    side of things, he could barely wash himself. Neither of them
    expected to make millions though.
     
    Ben, Sep 16, 2005
  15. The Older Gentleman

    Ben Guest

    BPs are the way forward. All the advantages, none of the shit.
     
    Ben, Sep 16, 2005
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    Ginge Guest

    Dunno, I wrote this then 20 mins later found a job advertised on half as
    much again as I'm on, with all the same benefits on top. It's *exactly*
    a match for my experience, but with some scope to learn new things too.

    It'd involve a house move long term, but is just about still in the
    midlands, I'm going to ponder applying over the week end.
     
    Ginge, Sep 16, 2005
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    Ben Guest

    Remembering our discussion at the weekend that's worth going for.
    North, south , east or west? You're barely in the Midlands as it is
    :)
     
    Ben, Sep 16, 2005
  18. The Older Gentleman

    Ginge Guest

    That's mostly my thinking.

    Would be interesting to see how much of a perpspective of life on the
    outside world I've maintained too.
     
    Ginge, Sep 16, 2005
  19. The Older Gentleman

    Ginge Guest

    Mostly south.
     
    Ginge, Sep 16, 2005
  20. The Older Gentleman

    Ginge Guest

    It's blue skies that got me into this shit... that, and blue suits. :)
     
    Ginge, Sep 16, 2005
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