Apparently we're all to start riding two-strokes and get rid of catalysers. Or something. Yes, folks, we now have "Global Dimming" that cools the Earth, and can thus apparently turn Global Warming up to Regulo 9. OK, it's probably a very real issue, but you've got to laugh. Oh, anannuverfing, why, when they talk about industrial pollution, do they always, ALWAYS show cooling towers belching out huge clouds of DHMO or Di-Hydro-Monoxide, commonly known as 'water'? Grrr. -- -Pip TL1000R The Quietly Booming Banana Guzzi Quota 1000: The Black Tractor YZ250: Rough 'n' Tumble Mongrel DT125: The Rust(ic) Garden Ornament
Pip Luscher secured a place in history by writing: Cos it looks really, really polluty. The public needs simple visual metaphors, we can't *see* ozone.
Heh.. whatever we do, it seems that we still shit on the next generation. The real problem is people, and their desires. Nothing a few nukes wouldn't sort out.
A horrible combination of words to make something nonsensical, IMHO. "Look past the problems, and you'll find opportunities."
I prefer a solution of Whiskey and Dihydro-monoxide this evening.[1] [1] ok I'll take the factual innacuracy and make the pun
On Thursday 13 Jan 2005 22:14, Pip Luscher I may have this wrong but I thought our current warm period was because the Sun is at a solar maximum. Doesn't the Sun take approximately 22 years to complete a warm/hot/warm cycle? If the above is true then we have the next 10-11 years to look forward to environmentalists complaining about global cooling. They'll probably be giving a pearl necklace to a tree while saying it too. Wankers.
Reminds me of the joke about a Catholic priest... A Catholic priest goes round to a house in his parish. Parishioner: "Would you like some tea, Father?" Priest: "No tea, thank you." Parishioner: "Would you like some coffee, Father?" Priest: "No coffee, thank you." Parishioner: "Would you like some whisky and soda, Father?" Priest: "No soda, thank you."
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:14:11 +0000, Pip Luscher wrote: Life was much simpler when you could drive past Avonmouth and see great gouts of orange smoke pouring out of the stacks at Fisons.
In About 10 years ago Jaguar, Ford and a few others had some brilliant supercharged two strokes to put in their next cars. Meant to be the "next big thing" but they fell at one of the final hurdles. They couldn't get them through the emissions regs. Couldn't get catalysts to work with two strokes. NoX emissions or summat. There was one engine built by Orbital or someone that was meant to be superb, but in the end it went on the shelf marked "maybe next time" Cloud factories look so pretty though. -- Pete M Mercedes 260E Ford Capri (ressurection started) "Never moon a werewolf" COSOC #5 Scouse Git extraordinaire. Liverpool, Great Britain
Rotaries are a sort of 2 stroke, and they burn oil. They have cats that work, and they produce loads of power from a tiny unit. Seeing as Ford own a large chunk of Mazda, I'd have thought that they'd have shared the information on how to make a cat that does the job. I think the real reason that these 2 smokes were not used is the same reason that rotaries are not widely used; fuel economy. In a 2 stroke you can have power or longevity & economy, not both. With a rotary, you get power and logevity, now (I hope), but not economy. -- ColonelTupperware, spouting bollocks on Usenet since 1997 Usenet FAQ at http://www.its.caltech.edu/its/services/internetapps/news/news2.shtml UPCE FAQ at http://upce.org.uk/ UKRM FAQ at http://www.ukrm.net/faq/
Oh, anannuverfing, why, when they talk about industrial pollution, do I thought just the same thing, mind you the visible part of con trails from planes is the same.
Pete M says... Norfolk Police had an Orbital engined Fiesta on test back in the very early 90s. It went like stink.
I'm not sure: they were a form of GDI units that also used a stratified charge system part of the time at least, so they should have been pretty efficient. No losses out of the exhaust plus the SC benefits, you see. From what I can gather, they were reliable too. There were problems with emissions as far as I can tell. Stratified charge engines are notoriously difficult to make 'clean' and Chrysler at least apparently had problems with lean-burn exhaust catalysts. -- -Pip TL1000R The Quietly Booming Banana Guzzi Quota 1000: The Black Tractor YZ250: Rough 'n' Tumble Mongrel DT125: The Rust(ic) Garden Ornament