Yet another Enviro-scare

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Pip Luscher, Jan 13, 2005.

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    Pip Luscher Guest

    Apparently we're all to start riding two-strokes and get rid of
    catalysers. Or something.

    Yes, folks, we now have "Global Dimming" that cools the Earth, and can
    thus apparently turn Global Warming up to Regulo 9.

    OK, it's probably a very real issue, but you've got to laugh.

    Oh, anannuverfing, why, when they talk about industrial pollution, do
    they always, ALWAYS show cooling towers belching out huge clouds of
    DHMO or Di-Hydro-Monoxide, commonly known as 'water'?

    Grrr.

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    Ferger Guest

    Pip Luscher secured a place in history by writing:
    Cos it looks really, really polluty. The public needs simple visual
    metaphors, we can't *see* ozone.
     
    Ferger, Jan 13, 2005
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    Muck Guest

    Heh.. whatever we do, it seems that we still shit on the next
    generation. The real problem is people, and their desires. Nothing a few
    nukes wouldn't sort out. ;)
     
    Muck, Jan 13, 2005
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    gazzafield Guest


    Strokers?! Cool! Pity it's not real and I'm simply delusional.
     
    gazzafield, Jan 13, 2005
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    tallbloke Guest

    Steady lad. There are no problems, only solutions.
     
    tallbloke, Jan 13, 2005
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    Muck Guest

    Heh, ok.. the solution is nukes. :)
     
    Muck, Jan 13, 2005
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    Ginge Guest

    A horrible combination of words to make something nonsensical, IMHO.

    "Look past the problems, and you'll find opportunities."
     
    Ginge, Jan 13, 2005
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    tallbloke Guest

    I prefer a solution of Whiskey and Dihydro-monoxide this evening.[1]

    [1] ok I'll take the factual innacuracy and make the pun
     
    tallbloke, Jan 13, 2005
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    Muck Guest

    Not grain alcohol and rain water, as not to contaminate your precious
    bodily fluids. ;)
     
    Muck, Jan 13, 2005
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    PDannyD Guest

    On Thursday 13 Jan 2005 22:14, Pip Luscher
    I may have this wrong but I thought our current warm period was because the
    Sun is at a solar maximum. Doesn't the Sun take approximately 22 years to
    complete a warm/hot/warm cycle?

    If the above is true then we have the next 10-11 years to look forward to
    environmentalists complaining about global cooling. They'll probably be
    giving a pearl necklace to a tree while saying it too. Wankers.
     
    PDannyD, Jan 13, 2005
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    PDannyD Guest

    Reminds me of the joke about a Catholic priest...

    A Catholic priest goes round to a house in his parish.
    Parishioner: "Would you like some tea, Father?"
    Priest: "No tea, thank you."
    Parishioner: "Would you like some coffee, Father?"
    Priest: "No coffee, thank you."
    Parishioner: "Would you like some whisky and soda, Father?"
    Priest: "No soda, thank you."
     
    PDannyD, Jan 13, 2005
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    AndrewR Guest

    You are Ronald Reagan AICMFF years as cowboy president.

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    Verdigris Guest

    On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:14:11 +0000, Pip Luscher wrote:

    Life was much simpler when you could drive past Avonmouth and see great
    gouts of orange smoke pouring out of the stacks at Fisons.
     
    Verdigris, Jan 14, 2005
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    Pete M Guest

    In
    About 10 years ago Jaguar, Ford and a few others had some brilliant
    supercharged two strokes to put in their next cars. Meant to be the "next
    big thing" but they fell at one of the final hurdles. They couldn't get them
    through the emissions regs. Couldn't get catalysts to work with two strokes.
    NoX emissions or summat.

    There was one engine built by Orbital or someone that was meant to be
    superb, but in the end it went on the shelf marked "maybe next time"
    Cloud factories look so pretty though.


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    Muck Guest

    Long time since I've seen that site.

    Excellent.
     
    Muck, Jan 14, 2005
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    Slider Guest

    [snip]
    It's the only way to be sure.
     
    Slider, Jan 14, 2005
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  17. Rotaries are a sort of 2 stroke, and they burn oil. They have cats
    that work, and they produce loads of power from a tiny unit.
    Seeing as Ford own a large chunk of Mazda, I'd have thought that
    they'd have shared the information on how to make a cat that does the
    job.
    I think the real reason that these 2 smokes were not used is the same
    reason that rotaries are not widely used; fuel economy.
    In a 2 stroke you can have power or longevity & economy, not both.
    With a rotary, you get power and logevity, now (I hope), but not
    economy.

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    Mo Childs Guest

    Oh, anannuverfing, why, when they talk about industrial pollution, do
    I thought just the same thing, mind you the visible part of con trails from
    planes is the same.
     
    Mo Childs, Jan 14, 2005
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    Lozzo Guest

    Pete M says...
    Norfolk Police had an Orbital engined Fiesta on test back in the very
    early 90s. It went like stink.
     
    Lozzo, Jan 14, 2005
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    Pip Luscher Guest

    I'm not sure: they were a form of GDI units that also used a
    stratified charge system part of the time at least, so they should
    have been pretty efficient. No losses out of the exhaust plus the SC
    benefits, you see.

    From what I can gather, they were reliable too.

    There were problems with emissions as far as I can tell. Stratified
    charge engines are notoriously difficult to make 'clean' and Chrysler
    at least apparently had problems with lean-burn exhaust catalysts.

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    Pip Luscher, Jan 15, 2005
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