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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Hog, Jul 13, 2007.

  1. Hog

    Hog Guest

    www.thinkbroadband.com/news/3137-pipex-to-sell-to-tiscali-for-210m.html
    Pipex to sell to Tiscali for £210m

    Oh dear oh dear.

    Well as Ofcom have proved themselves useless in terms of creating a decent
    terms of reference for being a UK ISP it seems the marketplace will be
    splitting up into:

    Residential - £free-10 per week for a claimed gigabyte per second, but
    "traffic shaped" such that newsgroups, P2P, FTP and anything else useful
    other than web browsing will only operate from 00:01 to 00:02 per day. High
    volume streaming and music download will however work effectively from
    "Selected Vendors"(#).

    Business - £25-35+vat for a circa2MB service any time of the day or night

    What a damp squib LLU turned out to be for the customers.

    (#) extra charges may apply
     
    Hog, Jul 13, 2007
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  2. Hog

    deadmail Guest

    Hmm... Pipex own Nildram, yes? So does that mean that ultimately my
    service will be owned suplied by Tiscali?

    I hope that this doesn't result in my paying 27 quid a month for the
    same service Tiscali sell for 12 or whatever.

    *sigh* I think I might need to go back to BT.
     
    deadmail, Jul 13, 2007
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  3. Hog

    christofire Guest

    Indeed. Good job I started removing all reliance on the pipex
    "services" last week.
     
    christofire, Jul 13, 2007
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  4. Hog

    Hog Guest

    It does and Tiscali suck big time. Traffic Shaping for idiots.
    Shame about Nildram. Move to ZEN, still independant.
     
    Hog, Jul 13, 2007
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  5. Hog

    DR Guest

    TalkTalk have recently gone LLU at my local exchange. From over 2
    years of almost total reliability (yes, really!) to slow and flaky,
    with at least one service failure (anywhere between 2 and 12 hours)
    per week since.

    FERITE.
     
    DR, Jul 13, 2007
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  6. Hog

    TOG Guest

    Christ. Back to BT, methinks.

    When will Tiscali start fucking it up, do you think? how much time
    have I got?
     
    TOG, Jul 13, 2007
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  7. I don't what they did to mine when they did it recently but the quality
    in that it don't seem to go wrong is as good as ever it was and the
    price has gone down and the volume has gone up. If that is moving it to
    LLU why should I complain?

    And how do I use my free internet phone minutes anyway, can I do it wiv
    bluetooth to my router?
     
    steve auvache, Jul 13, 2007
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  8. Hog

    Timo Geusch Guest

    Use the people I use - http://www.aaisp.net/ - no, they're not cheap,
    but normally quite good at what they do and they *do* understand that a
    network problem can't really be first reinstalling Windows on your Mac.

    Oh, and they got a BT engineer out to my place for some fault diagnosis
    within two days.
     
    Timo Geusch, Jul 13, 2007
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  9. Doc Gonz0 wrote:


    Or you look after all the kit and you can configure your own line :)
     
    eric the brave, Jul 14, 2007
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  10. Hog

    frag Guest

    Cheapest unlimited on Zen is Zen Office 500 at ?38 + VAT pm.

    Anything cheaper is capped.
     
    frag, Jul 26, 2007
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  11. Hog

    Hog Guest

    That's what I have been saying. An ISP cannot put it out at much less and
    turn a profit.
     
    Hog, Jul 26, 2007
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  12. Hog

    ginge Guest

    Do you have to also take the phone service with Be?

    I *cannot* leave BT for the phone service, due to being able to get all
    my work calls for free via some fancy divert code mallarkey.
     
    ginge, Jul 26, 2007
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  13. Hog

    Hog Guest

    Install a second line?
     
    Hog, Jul 26, 2007
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  14. Hog

    christofire Guest

    No.

    Rang up Pipex to get the MAC[1], went to quidco, clicked through to Be,
    entered code, job done. If you ring them up first, they'll run a quick
    check and give you a speed estimate. I'm looking at getting about 16meg.


    From their FAQ:
    "Can you provide Be service over a cable line?

    Be can only provide services over an active BT line, as our equipment
    is only installed in BT exchanges."

    It should be on in about a week, so I'll let you know how it goes.

    [1] that I'd requested[2], and they'd then sent to the wrong email
    address despite me telling them the one on file was wrong, and spending
    3 minutes or more spelling out the new one
    [2] What a palava. Speak to tech, speak to disconnections, speak to
    tech, rinse, repeat, etc. They suggested doing a test, as if that came
    up bad it wouldn't matter what the ISP was[4]. Fair enough. I do the
    test, the webpage specifically said [If this test works, the problem's
    not with BT, it's with your ISP]. It worked fine. The bottom-feeders
    still refused to even entertain the possibility that it could be Pipex,
    despite a team senior previously agreeing that the traffic shaping may
    be the cause, and we reset to step 1: is anything else plugged into any
    other phone sockets? ARRRGH! After re-wiring the sockets so that the
    phone line came in, then went to the master socket, then to the router
    *and nowhere else*, yes, I was sure nothing else was plugged in. At
    this point I said "Stop. I've been playing this game for months, I
    can't be bothered anymore. Just give me the code."

    The useless bastards also charged us for the free month we were
    supposed to be getting in recompense for all the hassle. Great way to
    impress a customer on the verge of leaving.
    [4] The problem is that anything that's not http drops to unusable
    speeds, and or drops so much traffic that it doesn't work, between
    about 5pm and 6pm to gone 11pm. Games, torrents, sometimes http/ftp
    downloads. Couple that with paying £24 a month for a 1meg package and
    it's definately time for pastures new.
     
    christofire, Jul 26, 2007
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  15. Hog

    ginge Guest

    Pointless, I hardly use the home line for anything other than work calls
    so paying 2 sets of line rental would be a waste.
     
    ginge, Jul 26, 2007
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  16. Hog

    Fr Jack Guest

    Well spotted, me!
    Keep me posted, I'll likely be dumping Poopex soon, meself.
     
    Fr Jack, Jul 26, 2007
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  17. Hog

    christofire Guest

    Indeedy - thanks for that.
    Will do. Give 'em a call and see what you'll get speedwise. Might be
    closer to 20meg while you're quite literally a stone's throw from the
    exchange.
     
    christofire, Jul 26, 2007
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  18. Hog

    gomez Guest

    I have just jumped ship from Freedpm2Surf who are also owned by Pipex
    and saved 10% on my monthly sub by going to NewNet. Another popular
    choice is ADSL24+ for heavy users or the other Entanet resellers.

    By, by, Tipex!
     
    gomez, Jul 27, 2007
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  19. Hog

    gomez Guest

    There is a shareholders meeting soon which needs to give its approval
    and then Tiscali have a road-map for what their plans running into
    next year.

    OfCom are also sticking their neb in and are hold their own
    investigation although compared to Sky / Easynet it is small beer.
     
    gomez, Jul 27, 2007
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  20. Hog

    Hog Guest

    Poor old F2S, I remember back when, quality ISP they were with great dial-up
    services.
     
    Hog, Jul 27, 2007
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