[QUOTE="darsy"] that's my genuine opinion. I hate skanky old cafes with blokes with 6 earrings in one ear, studded denim jackets etc. etc. I mean, I say, I'd rather eat at somewhere rubbish like Pret than a "biker's caff".[/QUOTE] Awww, I like bikers caffs. It's good to ogle the talent over a cappuccino and a sticky bun. My suggestion for biker friendly caff is warm radiators on which to dry soggy clothing.