[QUOTE="Whinging"] In uk.rec.motorcycles, Champ amazed us all with this pearl of wisdom: [/QUOTE] Hint: If you can't see what's making it come out of the tap (i.e. it isn't being 'pulled') it's going to be crap. Try some Adnams SSB, an IPA, or Spitfire. No, really. You'll be surprised. [QUOTE] You're talking about the mass produced "catered for the football brigade" crap. Proper beer doesn't taste like that. It's the same as buying a cigar for a quid and then moaning because it tastes shit. Maybe you can rally up a few people to buy you one (and a cigar). [/QUOTE] In fact: Champ, Go an source yourself one of the above the next time you get the opportunity. If you don't like it, I'll paypal you whatever it cost. Tiff