Zeitgeist- the movie

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by porl, Apr 14, 2008.

  1. porl

    porl Guest

    Apparently this hasn't been posted here yet so if you've got a couple
    of hours spare you might take a look.

    Top tip: If you have ADD skip the first 14 minutes of so.

    porl, Apr 14, 2008
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    Cane Guest

    Cheers for that.
    Cane, Apr 14, 2008
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  3. porl

    Cane Guest

    <approx two hours later>

    I really enjoyed that and I'm cynical about everything, especially
    conspiracies. Plenty to think about.

    I look forward to the sequel.
    Cane, Apr 14, 2008
  4. porl

    porl Guest

    That's what I thought. I too number myself among the throng of
    outraged-yet-haven't-a-clue plebs. Be interesting to hear opinions
    from the more knowledable end of ukrm concerning their specialist
    areas (ie, Simian, Dodger) and those passionate about Narnia- I mean
    religion- like Phil.
    porl, Apr 14, 2008
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    SD Guest

    Eh What? Me? Sorry guv, you've got the wrong bloke.
    SD, Apr 15, 2008
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    Cane Guest

    It's making me view this whole "credit crunch" from a new angle.
    Cane, Apr 15, 2008
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    CT Guest

    What's it about then? You know, a quick summary for those of use who
    CBA to sit and watch the whole two hours.
    CT, Apr 15, 2008
  8. ^^^ wot 'e said. I got bored after the first few minutes.

    Can someone give me a precis to see whether I want to sit through it.

    I don't own a TV and don't go to the movies as I work in the industry,
    but the replies to this thread do have me intrigued. Whether I want to
    melt my brain for 2 hours to see another conspiracy theory is another
    thing. But, again, replies here do have me interested in what it is
    Kevin Gleeson, Apr 15, 2008
  9. porl

    Cane Guest

    "This documentary is not for the faint-hearted. it dissects the
    origins of the christian religion and gives an interesting view on how
    a few american banks (and thus a few very powerful people) have seized
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    This film gathers information from many sources and puts it together
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    large institutions, governments and economic powers. It is divided
    into 3 parts. 1. Religion: Pagan astrological beliefs compared to
    modern and ancient religions. (9:35-35:53) 2. 9/11: An overview of the
    numerous questionable aspects of this immensely important event.
    (35:54-1:09:16) 3. The Federal Reserve Bank: A history of its
    formation and ability to control the economy. (1:09:17-1:56:23) With
    many news clips from tragic events in history, audio excerpts from
    those who believe people are being misled about the level of freedom
    they have, this riveting documentary will anger those who agree with
    it as well as those who do not. A very timely and important piece of
    work that all free thinking people should see. Viewer Content Warning:
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    scenes that may not be suitable for all viewers. (18 or older) Written
    by Jeff1961

    Extremely controversial documentary split into three parts, first
    producing information discrediting religion, particularly Christainity
    through showing the simmilarities of major religious figures. Part 2
    describes the problems with what was told to us about the events
    surrounding Sept. 11 and and provides evidence to show who the writers
    believe really was responsible for the attacks. The third part deals
    with banks and resulting theories of World leaders plans to create one
    world bank. Also touches on the people responsible for the Great
    Deppression. "
    Cane, Apr 15, 2008
  10. Thanks - that reeks of conspiracy theory, but as I said, I noticed a
    few comments on here that made me think it was worth persisting with.
    The first 5 minutes bored me shitless but I might persist and check it
    out. I didn't have 2 hours this morning, but do now.

    My critique may or may not follow :)

    <Grabs a nice Aussie lager and tries to work out how to get the
    fucking thing to play full screen on my pooter - this will be the
    first TV/Movie thing I have seen since I left the UK nearly 18 months
    Kevin Gleeson, Apr 15, 2008
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    porl Guest

    Apparently the very first post bored you shitless as you didn't even
    make it to the second sentence where I said "Top tip: If you have ADD
    skip the first 14 minutes or so. "

    Bear in mind it streams off the internet, you don't have to download
    it or search through pages to get to it, but be warned you do have to
    press a button and point your eyes towards the coloured light. Don't
    sprain anything for god's sake as I'd hate to be responsible for any
    absence in the industry.
    porl, Apr 15, 2008
  12. <Hold music>

    I'm afraid that the person you are calling is busy. Far too busy to get
    into another religion argument anyway

    </Hold Music>

    Phil Launchbury, Apr 15, 2008
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    Ace Guest


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    Ace, Apr 15, 2008
  14. I thought the first 45 minutes where utterly dull and pointless. Once
    it moved away from all the boring religious stuff (apparently the major
    organised religions are all made up nonsense, who'd have guessed?) it
    actually got very interesting.

    "Worth persevering with" is my three-word summary.
    Slower Than You, Apr 15, 2008
  15. Pfft :p

    Still got through the first part then about 15 minutes into part 2 and
    found it just too conspiracy theory. Also a very manipulative style:
    start out with a few facts then start stretching things more and more.
    I gave up and read a book.
    Kevin Gleeson, Apr 15, 2008
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    porl Guest

    Hmmm, I don't think it implies that religions are nonsense at any
    point. Moreover, it provides understandable and coherent reasons for
    their origins referencing relatively esoteric sources that I imagine
    most people won't know. What you yourself conclude regarding modern
    interpretations is left quite open. Ie, Just because the origins begin
    at A, doesn't mean a faith in B isn't possible, and is a whole other
    discussion (ie shitfight with Phil). Paging AndrewR...
    porl, Apr 16, 2008
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    Pete Fisher Guest

    In communiqué
    I actually liked the first few minutes. "Fear of the now", is *almost*
    better than an Alan Watts quote.

    As to the Zodiac ages stuff, SWMBO reminded me of the 'official'
    explanations for the fish symbol including the ichthus acrostic theory.

    Still, they would say that wouldn't they?

    The Horus death and rebirth references made me think back to an exchange
    with Verdigris and Ace about celebrating the solstice.

    Downloading the torrent now so I can watch the rest without being
    on-line when I have a chance.

    The 911 stuff had me googling for Building 7 WTC. As you might expect,
    an alternative, on the face of it, plausible, official explanation.
    Seems a report is due soon.

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    CT Guest

    Henry's 9/11 conspracy thread is down there | somewhere
    CT, Apr 16, 2008
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    Pete Fisher Guest

    Your point being?
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    Pete Fisher, Apr 16, 2008
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    CT Guest

    That his posts contain numerous links to WTC7, saving you the trouble
    of googling.
    CT, Apr 16, 2008
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